Speaking to an Elder tomarrow, I'm almost free!!!!!!!

drew sagan

Major developments in my world, just wanted to let you all know about it.
I'm meeting with the Elder tomarrow afternoon. Wish me the best. I'm going to stick heavy to the Watchtowers interpretation of Matthew 24 and how it is unbalanced, sensationalized and out of touch with any historical evidence or respect for the Bible. There are other points i'm going to bring up, but this is the one I think is the best. I just finished reading "The Sign of the Last days, when?", it's fresh in my mind an will be perfect for discussion.
BUT EVEN BETTER IS THIS!
I just had the most amazing conversation with my wife. I went with her point by point the problems I have with the Watchtowers interpretation of Matthew 24 (the same points I will be going over with the Elder). She has finally opened up to me this time!!!! She didn't shut me out but instead followed along and even started to talk about the things she has noticed about the organization that appears they are not following the words of Christ. All I had to do was show her ONE scripture and she was convinced:
Luke 21:8 He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them.
It was totally amazing! She agrees %100 that the Watchtower is misleading people by the way they misinterpret the Bible and make it appear that the "time is near" when they really don't know any better than the next guy. I'm just so excited right now. NO MORE WTS FOR ME!!!! YES!!!!
Thanks to everybody on this board for helping me get to this point. A few weeks ago I didn't know what to do, I almost went deeper into the borg, but you all helped me see I needed to keep fighting. Thanks so much! I'll let you know what happens tomarrow.
-drew

serendipity

Hi Drew,

I'd be interested in how it goes. I'm glad you're wife is in agreement. That will make things easier.

Virgochik

That's wonderful news, Drew! You have the rest of your life ahead of you to enjoy! Sounds like you'll be having a great WT free life with your wife by your side. I'm anxious to hear how the ~~investigation~~ meeting goes. Maybe, they'll think about the points you make at a later time, and see the ~~new~~ light.

juni

Thinking of you tomorrow Drew. Let us know how things go and also w/your wife.

Juni

Star Moore

Dear Drew,

I'm very happy for you. I wondered when I read your comments..how much longer you could sit thru the 'junk', week after week. The thing is Drew, do you have the inner strength, to continue your journey to TRUTH, even if your wife doesn't join you?

I know if will be hard, but being true to yourself and God, is the most important thing of all. Even more important than a harmonious marriage...

streets76

All the best Drew.

Double Edge

Wow... that's great news! It's interesting that your wife responded to your step-by-step appoach and the scripture from Luke. We'll have to make sure to 'bookmark' this thread when someone wants suggestions on how to bring their spouse around to see the real truth.

fullofdoubtnow

Congratulations Drew, and welcome to freedom! I could not be more pleased for you, and I am so happy that your wife is with you on this as well.

AudeSapere

Hope things are going well.

Let us know how it went.

-Aude.

cyberguy

I wish you the best Drew! One of the things I learned early on was that the “composite sign” that JW’s talk about is really the “NOT-a-sign” or “NOT sign”! Of course, there are a number of charismatic groups out there that hold to similar views as JW’s (JW’s didn’t invent this stuff as you probably know), that you can somehow look at events on earth as a sign of Jesus 2nd return. However, Jesus initial answer to the disciples was “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; for…” The “for” word means that what follows is connected with what was just said, and this is the recorded response of Jesus in all 3 Gospels! This was brought out in Carl’s “Gentiles Reconsidered” book, and “The Sign of the Last Days, When?” Interestingly, I actually learned about this while in Bethel, from someone in Writing back in 1979. The sad part is that some of these church leaders know their interpretation is problematic. In fact, the title of Russel’s 2nd book, “The Time is at Hand!” is based on Luke 21:8, which is based on a warning that Jesus gave NOT to follow those who say “the time is at hand” (KJ). The JW-organization had the facts backward from the very beginning!

Another bomb you can drop on someone is the crazy interpretation of Matt. 28:17, where Jesus says “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.” Do you realize that in keeping with their bizarre 1914 teaching, JW’s believe that this had not occurred at the time Jesus spoke it, but rather Jesus was only making a future promise that would be finally fulfilled in 1914! You see, they can’t accept a natural reading of the text, for to do so would be to admit that Jesus did not have to wait until 1914. Finally, have them turn to the Insight book, vol. 2, p. 61, under “Jesus Christ – The full significance of his ‘name’”. Read the paragraphs and look up the scriptures in the first couple of paragraphs. This information got a friend of mine out of the mindless monstrosity.

Cheers!

Speaking to an Elder tomarrow, I'm almost free!!!!!!!

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