Evolutionary Path

by msil 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Hi MSIL: I think the one thing we often fear is death, not the event itself, nor necessarily the suffering prior to death, but rather the certainty that death ends our journey. We cannot see beyond Death's wall, and we really have no clue what we will face. Even the most deeply religous person has no real idea of what lies beyond the veil, a glorious spiritual existence, or a deep dark unconscious chasim.

    But, I have come to the point in life, that as AlanF stated, it is not so much the path, or even the destination, but the journey itself that counts.

    When I look at people who have been very successful in life, they appear to come in two flavors: 1. Those who suceeded because they wanted to be a star, have fame and money; 2. Those who succeeded because they had passion for the art of their profession. Fame and money were very secondary or even totally unimportant.

    The difference between the two? The second type seems to be happier, more fulfilled, and dies with a smile on their face. People often seem to remember the second type more, because they gave from the heart all they have to their passion in life.

    In becoming a JW, I gave up several other passions - but not all - and focused that passion on being a loyal JW, because it captivated my heart. This cost me 25 good years of another journey - but, I do not regret the passion. Now, I am free to pursue those passions I gave up - and in addition, my passion in life now is to bring accountability to the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society.

    When all is said and done, regardless if I evolved, or there is a god or no god, or wether I measured up to some standard of my fellow humans - I WILL die with a smile on my face, with that satisfaction that I gave life my all, my passion -- and, my children and many others will remember me when I reach my demise, as I have them -- and one of those passions along the journey that I will savor, a committment I made in 1992, and one that I am keeping -- is to bring justice and accountability to the Jehovah's Witness religion -- and that passion is being fulfilled, and will reach new heights with the Dateline story, the lawsuits, and something else that I will be announcing later on.

    No, I did not start the Dateline story nor the lawsuits, but I have been an instigator and a player on the team, and while I am not the quarterback, I am in the game, and not on the sidelines. The QB and Wide Receiver are Bill and Barbara. But my passion about this is not whether I am in the headlines after the game is over -- but my passion is in winning the game, and knowing that I was on the team -- that allows me to at least share in the trophy.

    These things we do each day are the journey. Every moment spent, every hour that passes, every day when the sun sets, we have expended part of the journey and our time reduces a little bit each day, month, and year. We are ever conscious of this. So, savor the moment, explore your passions, and whatever you do, do it from the heart. - Amazing

  • Utopian Reformist
    Utopian Reformist

    WOW! You said it best. What a profound and genuine sentiment!

  • joelbear
    joelbear

    Whether god exists or not cannot be proven or disproven. It becomes a philosophical question. One should align oneself with a philosophical viewpoint that garners one inner strength and tranquility and also allows for an ethical and benevolent view of the rest of the living universe.

    I have attempted to construct such a philosophy for myself which I call Lifeism. If interested visit my web page www.joelbear.com and click on the Lifeism link.

    peace

    Joel

  • msil
    msil

    Amazing and Joel,

    Thanks guys. It is true the only things we can be sure of are Death and Taxes (dunno which is worse)... But it must be the pessimistic side of me which enables me to say: "we are all dying....every day that passes brings me closer to the date of my death". I hate that thought.

    Something happened earlier this morning which triggered me to think about "coping mechanisms". As humans it appears as if we all need "coping mechanisms" (CMs). For instance drugs or religion (ahh see I did learn that drugs and spiritism are related when we studied the links due to them using the Greek word Pharmacia) are common CMs for people, as are alcohol and sex...and so on and so on. Why do we as humans need CMs? What is it about life that we need to have to "cope" with it?

    Some have stated that religion is the strongest CM available to humans (eg. Religion is the opium of the people). Is it true that we as humans need to hold out some "unknown" or that by having a CM shrouded in mystery we are able to cope better than if it wasn't mysterious? Does everybody need "magic in their life" so as to cope? Why do some people need to read a "thought for the day" or need some external stimuli to get them through or to set the direction for them? As a JW I struggled to do the Daily Text. Even when I did it, it left me as soon as I was through. Others seemed to dwell on it most of the day - I must have had a spiritual deficiency. You know what they say "Happy is he who is conscious of his spiritual need (Mat 5:3)" - no wonder I never felt happy!!

    Just some more of my pointless ramblings and musings....I can keep them to myself or I can put them out there for the board as I think of them.

  • voltaire
    voltaire

    Amazing,

    Just wanted to let you know that I for one(I'm sure there are many others) am having an interesting time just watching on the sidelines. Thousands will surely benefit(maybe millions), even if they don't know about the work you and others are doing and even if they think you're an evil apostate.

  • crownboy
    crownboy

    I too have no idea as to what I completely believe. I've gone from totally believing everything the bible said to seriously doubting whether God has ever spoken to anyone or whether he exist as the deity in the Judeo- Christain- Islamic tradition (I still do, however, believe in a creator since I find it hard to believe this universe originated out of chaos). I don't think questions of spirituality can be easily resolved with some all purpose answer, I believe that ones spirtuality evolves as one experiences in life unfolds. I have and continue to read different books on spirituality as I try to decifer my path. The very abstract nature of spirituality makes it a difficult topic to navigate, but hopefully you will find the answers you're looking for.

  • Ranchette
    Ranchette

    Msil,
    I know we have some simular views.
    Have you read AGE OF REASON by Thomas Payne and
    A HISTORY OF GOD by Karen Armstrong?If you haven't please do.You can check these out at the library.
    Also if you haven't read COMBATTING CULT MIND CONTROL by Steven Hassen
    I have a copy for you.Just email me your work address.

    They helped me to feel comfortable going at my own pace with all of this.
    We don't have to have all the answers at once.

    We've been so used to being told what to do that freedom is a little scary.

    We were also taught to put our hopes and deams on the back burner so as a result we are not used to knowing what we want out of life.

    We have to get used to this gift of freedom and responsibility.

    The reason I use the word responsibility is because it is up to us now to take control of our lives.

    Making mistakes is one way we learn.So the worst thing that can happen is you try something and it doesn't work you have to try something else.Not the end of the world like we were taught as JW's.

    We don't have to fear condemnation for normal human mistakes.
    Relax and try to enjoy your life while searching for answers.

    Ranchette

  • Hmmm
    Hmmm
    Now, I am free to pursue those passions I gave up - and in addition, my passion in life now is to bring accountability to the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society


    Amazing, your all-consuming passion in life is to be an Accountant for the WT?!?! Well.... to each his own.

    msil,
    I think you and I are at precisely the same point. I'm not sweating it right now. I owe myself some time to focus on my life, career, and just plain have some fun.

    Hmmm

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