by TheListener 45 Replies latest watchtower bible
"I guess my question is: what proof of that (your statement) is there?"
Dont expect a coherent answer because of course, he has no proof. Even some "ex" jehoobie's witnesses cant accept the fact that these are allegorical fairy tales written by wandering desert nomads thousands of years ago. Like the watchtower, they twist fiction as fact.
Having said that, as a literary figure, Nimrod ROCKS !!!! Anyone that would rebel against the d**khead god of the old testament has my vote!!!! LOL
Seriously, this is one of the more laughable stories. God really said, "ok, you can build a duplex but that's it, anything higher and I'll be pissed." How high could they have built the damn thing anyway, using mud and twigs? And who names their kid "Mighty Hunter in Opposition to Jehovah"? I mean how fair is that? What kind of shot at life does this kid have? Do you think any kids in the neighbourhood would want to play with him?
5 year old Nimrod:
"Hi guys."
"Hi Mighty Hunter in Oppostition to Jehovah"
"Can I be part of your club?"
"Uh... sorry, but we don't have enough room in the clubhouse for you"
"But if we built an extra story..."
God really said, "ok, you can build a duplex but that's it, anything higher and I'll be pissed."
ha ha! Excellent! And if we follow greendawns interpretation, we can blame all the misery on earth on the fact that some poor chump dared to violate gods "building code" !!!!! LOL
Or maybe Nimrod was violating the Fire Safety Codes? LOL
BTW, the real-life tower would have looked something like this:
The Great Pyramid of Giza was taller than Enmeduranki (the ziqqurat at Babylon).
I typed up a very long post but lost it. Oh well.
Basically I have reviewed the WTCDrom and they only say Nimrod was bad because the Jewish Targums and Josephus say it. Of course, they don't discuss all the other things those documents say.
They insert "in opposition to Jehovah" into Genesis chapter 10 for effect. It works - for dubs. The word "before" #6440 literally means in front of someone or something's face. There is no character added into it. It doesn't imply Nimrod being evil before Jehovah's face. In fact it means he did his hunting openly before Jehovah. The word #6440 is used like 2,100 times in the OT. The society references about 6 of them to support adding "in opposition to Jehovah." I reviewed each reference they gave and it makes no sense. You can insert the simply word "before" in every case and it sounds perfectly fine. The translators may have made word #6440 "against" instead of "before" but that is a translators perogative. It doesn't change the basic meaning of the word.
I'm appalled that I didn't catch this deception earlier.
My vote is that Nimrod may be guilty or innocent of the things ascribed to him. We don't know and presenting it as factual is dishonest. Unless someone has newer information that 2,000 year old Targums and 2,000 year old Josephus references to 2,000 year old oral traditions.
BTW, the Society also totally rewrites the whole story of Nimrod thanks to their dependence on the fallacious works of Alexander Hislop, whom they cite as an important authority. I would like to start a thread one day on THAT whole issue.
Leo,
Please do. Now, THAT would be interesting indeed!
This is an interesting link.
I looked up the account in Genesis about Babel and it just says that the people of the earth built the tower - Nimrod is not mentioned as having a part in this.
I found a reference to Nimrod in Micah 5:6 - here it makes a statement about the Land of Nimrod
Nowhere does it say he was evil, only that he was a mighty hunter. And nowhere is he linked with Babel.
Leolaia,
We need to talk about Hislop as I have a copy of a book he wrote. Do you have contrary information to refute his work? Or, can you recomend other sources I can use to verify or nullify his book? Thanks, Lilly
I have an extensive library of biblical books including ones that are referenced in our bible but not included. My hubby reminded me of Jashar. It is mentioned in Joshua 10:13 & 2 Samuel 1:18, so this was a book around that the ancient Jews read. He remembered a chapter on Nimrod.
Here are some quotes from this book Jashar XI 1 And Nimrod son of Cush was still in the land of Shinar, and he reigned over it and dwelt there, and he built cities in the land of Shinar 2 And these are the names of the four cities which he built, and he called their names after the occurances that happened to them in the building of the tower. 3 And he called the first Babel, saying, Because the Lord there confounded the language of the whole earth;
Verse 6: And Nimrod dwelt in Babel, and there he renewed his reign over the rst of his subjects, and he reigned securely, and the subjects and princes of Nimrod called his name Amraphel saying that at the tower his princes and men fell through his means. 7 And notwithstanding this, Nimrod did not return to the Lord, and he continued in wickedness and teaching wickedness to the sons of men;
Leolaia, I sure hope I am on JWD when you post that thread. I always believed Hislop was an accredited authority. I had no idea his works were fallacious. I'm all excited now!
