BoE "Porn" Letter... what if it isn't "convenient"?

by Scully 17 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Scully
    Scully

    I was just reading the BoE letter dated June 7, 2006 regarding Pornography. Here's an excerpt that made me go "hmmmmm".

    Next, the body of elders should determine whether the brother still qualifies to serve. He may continue to serve if his involvement consisted of (1) a few brief viewings, (2) he displays a heartfelt desire to desist from looking at pornography in any form, (3) the elders are convinced that he will refrain from viewing pornography, (4) he continues to retain the respect of others who are aware of what he did, and (5) his conscience allows him to do so. Nonetheless, if the body of elders is unsure whether a brother continues to qualify, they should discuss the matter with the circuit overseer at his next visit, if the visit is only a few weeks away. Otherwise, they should write the branch office for direction, providing answers to the above questions, along with their recommendation.

    On the other hand, if (1) he has developed a pattern of seeking pornography, or (2) on several occasions has viewed abhorrent forms of pornography that are sexually degrading, which might include child pornography, sadistic torture, bondage, gang rape, or the brutalizing of women, this would disqualify him from serving. (Titus 2:11-14; w89 6/1 pp. 15-16 pars. 2-5) Under these circumstances, the elders should recommend his removal at their earliest convenience.

    What if it just is not "convenient"? What if this so-called "brother" is one who takes care of a lot of things that allow the other elders to spend more time with their own families instead of being called away on the Society's "business"? What if this "brother" has skills and abilities that make him well suited to take the lead in certain committees that other JW men don't have? What if this "brother" has himself in the enviable position of being indispensible to the congregation, and to fulfilling the Society's agenda? What if his removal meant that the rest of the elders had to double up on their assignments, and felt that it would be just too "inconvenient" to lose this hard-working "brother" over viewing a few "abhorrent" pictures? Would they let things slide? Would they look the other way because to lose such a trooper of a "brother" would put a harsh burden on the remaining elders in the congregation?

    I'm just asking because I know of a case that involved a now deceased elder who was the head of the Regional Building Committee for many years. He was known for his violent temper. He was known to have physically abused his kids and one of his grandchildren. He was never, ever reproved for it, even after the WTS started paying attention to behaviour like this (at least in the publications). He just "did so much for the Organization" that he was considered "indispensible", and he was an elder and the head of the Regional Building Committee until the day he died. His Memorial Service was attended by over 500 people and held at the Assembly Hall, because "he did so much for the Organization".

    It's not too much of a stretch of the imagination to figure out that a man who can be physically violent toward children is much more dangerous and more of a threat than someone who "habitually looks at Internet porn" who has never been violent toward anyone. Yet if someone can ingratiate themselves to the Organization and prove themselves "indispensible", it can be very "inconvenient" to remove them from their responsibilities. It just makes me wonder how many elders are going to slip under the radar due to the "inconvenience" factor.

  • mustang
    mustang

    What if it just is not "convenient"?

    This is called EXPEDIENCY. They will do whatever they need to do to
    carry on the status quo and maintain the charade.

    A similar example is condemning higher education to the rank and file; then,
    since the WTS can't trust outsiders, or the outsiders can't comprehend the task
    or they cringe at the expense, Brooklyn authorizes a few in house attorenys
    under the "grow your own" plan.

    WTS is always likely to do what they please but call a different set of shots
    for anyone else.

    Mustang

  • kgfreeperson
    kgfreeperson

    You make excellent points, scully.

  • minimus
    minimus

    Let's say the majority of elders are away in the summertime. The PO's or the secretary is away, the others are on vacation or they're at the District Convention, then as soon as it's "convienent" for them to get back together, they should execute their judgment on the man (that the Society has already told them they MUST do).

  • undercover
    undercover
    Under these circumstances, the elders should recommend his removal at their earliest convenience.

    But first they need to review the evidence. If the subject matter is on DVD or VHS tapes they need to studied to verify exactly which kind of porn it is. If the brother who admitted his transgression viewed the porn on his computer via the Internet, then he should supply the body of elders with all the website names and urls, if possible so that they can be researched as well.

    In keeping up with the issues that face our congregations, the elder body will start taking continuing education classes each week on a non-meeting night, at one elder's home who has an Internect connection and a DVD player with HDTV. It is preferred that the elder's family, should he have one, not be home during these training sessions, so the brothers can concentrate on the material without interruption. A loving wife can help by having water, Gatorade and towels handy for the trainees.

    It is hoped that such training sessions can help our brothers understand what the friends are going through and so they can speak with confidence about any subject matter that should arise in the congregation.

    Let's thank the Grand Creator for providing such training for the brothers as they seek to improve their aim in administring their duties.

  • crownboy
    crownboy

    The writer of this BoE letter seems to know a great deal about the different types of pornography. I wonder how they got to be so knowlegeable .

    Also, they list child porn in the same league as bondage, etc. Child porn is illegal, and if an elder knows someone who has some shouldn't it become a police matter? Oh yeah, this is the Watchtower society we're talking about .

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free
    A loving wife can help by having water, Gatorade and towels handy for the trainees.

    Don't forget some lube.

    W

  • lrkr
    lrkr

    I remember a long and drug out conversation on what constitutes "degrading" pornography. A few unmarried elders were pushing the idea that porn that includes oral sex is "degrading" and requires the elders immediate removal.

    Debates over nothing!!!

  • dgp
    dgp

    Crownboy .

    I would point out that apparently the viewing of pornography is common enough for the WT to have a whole policy about it.

    Let me be a cynic. What if 6) all the elders secretly watch porn as well?

    he displays a heartfelt desire to desist from looking at pornography in any form

    Would you believe a drunk who displayed a heartfelt desire not to drink again?

    What I see is many loopholes to let the man stay in office unless things get "too much" out of control.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    Mostly the decision is going to be based upon how many people outside of the room know what's going on. If nobody but the wanker and a couple other elders know about it, it will be swept under the rug. If gossip starts getting out, then he's done for as long as it's convenient.

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