For far too many years we Americans have paid our taxes and gone about our peaceful lives believing we lived in the best and safest country in the world.
September 11, 2001 claimed the title of the day that will live in infamy. The attack on Pearl Harbor must now relinquish that title, as Tuesday's attack was undeniably worse than that military attack on a naval base. Millions of people watched in horror as the second plane crashed into the World Trade Center tower on live television and thousands of innocent civilians-Americans-died before a worldwide audience.
Terrorist hijackers, some receiving their pilot training in America. Across the world, Arabs celebrated. Some even celebrated right here in America.
Enough is enough.
America has sent our tax dollars overseas to the Middle East for years and years. Our tax dollars have benefited both Iraq and Iran. Our tax dollars quietly aided Afganistan in their struggle against the Soviets. Our tax dollars subsidize zero-interest loans for Arabs to open up businesses in America, while no American could even think of getting such a gift. Our tax dollars pay for these Arabs to attend schools we only wish we could send our own children to. Military aid, financial aid, revenues to OPEC, our money is a river of wealth to the Middle East.
Enough is enough.
It is time for our financial aid to the Middle East to stop. It is time to use our own oil reserves. It is time for our military forces over there to come home.
But before our military over there comes home, it is also time for one last stand. One final decisive assertion that America is still the most powerful nation on Earth and we will not stand for one single innocent American to die at the hands of foreign terrorists.
If they can't seem to tell us where to find Bin Laden, we will have to do it the hard way. Destroyers and carriers sail in. Airbases and infantry bases set up and if the locals have a problem, the complaint department is the machine gun emplacement right over there. Each and every terrorist camp location ever caught on satellite or by other intelligence gets hammered and then the ground forces shoot all survivors. Each and every location Bin Laden has ever called or does call home will be reduced to smoking craters in the ground. If he chooses the Hussein method-the coward's way out-by surrounding himself with innocents then there will be lots of dead civilians. If Afganistan wants to aid and abet terrorists then in the near future there will be a big parking lot on the map. Same goes for Iran and Iraq, please just give us a reason.
Bill Clinton is no longer President, so your asses will no longer be kissed. This time, if you fuck with America, your camel-fucking sand-ni**er asses are toast.
a very pissed off mike.
React, Retaliate, and Respond Forcefully
by Bendrr 17 Replies latest jw friends
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Bendrr
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COMF
The unshakable logic of your calm, well-thought-out presentation leaves me speechless.
COMF
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Seeker
It was an absolutely disgusting post. It takes a tragedy to see the unreasoning barbarism in some. Those involved should be killed, no question. But this blanket racism is disgusting.
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NameWithheld
Racism? How about nationalism? How to seperate the two in this country of so many races?
You have to admit, it stirs the blood to realize that we have been bending over backwards to help other countries (I don't pretend the U.S. is SO innocent, but they do send aid to others in many cases), giving very fairly free access to this country, and subsidizing foriegn education. When our own are denied the same. Where do you draw the line?
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Skimmer
Hello Bendrr:
I sadly agree with your post.
The United States has tried negotiations. It has tried very expensive foreign aid programs. It has tried using international law. It has tried limited military action. The evidence is that none of this has been a successful deterrent.
In August of 1945, President Truman made the decision to use nuclear weapons to quickly end the horrible disease of inhumane, expansionist imperialism that had infected the Japanese government and military. Years later he commented that it was the hardest decision he had ever made and that the the fact that it was a necessary one did not make it any easier. He knew he would have critics and that the criticism would last for years, long after he was gone.
In September of 2001. President Bush is also faced with a tough decision. He sees that the last twenty years of negotiations and relatively limited military action has not deterred the terrorist atrocities seen on the eleventh of the month.
Remember that the main purpose of war is to remove the war fighting capability from the adversary. Against the terrorists and the countries that give them shelter, we have but one weapon in our arsenal that will do the job quickly and without further loss of American lives.
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COMF
Of course it was, Seeker. Please tell me you were aware of the sarcasm in my post.
Those involved should be killed, no question.
This is a radical departure from your usual stance, isn't it?
COMF
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Seeker
COMF, I didn't direct my comment to your comment. Yes, I saw the sarcasm in your post and agreed.
As for a change in my stance, I do think this is one of those cases where those involved deserved to die. To lock them up would allow them to relay more plans for more carnage. This is an act of war, and in war there are different rules.
Of course, blasting them to oblivion won't change anything in the world. There are terrorists being born today. There will always be terrorists, no matter what anyone does. You can't reason with religious fanatics (look at this board). Christian, Muslim, Hindu -- regardless of belief, when you get fanatics you get bloodshed. So if we find and kill those responsible, others will rise in their place and strike back. We can strike them down, and more will rise in their place. As I said, we are dealing with massive propaganda that prevents clear thinking. Instead we see hatred, and now we are seeing unreasoning hatred on our side coming to the fore.
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Winston
bendrr,
Maybe with you logic you should start a family counselling service.
You have so much good advice think of all the families you would save.YEAH RIGHT!
How long ave you live and how long has God lived?
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somebody
Bendr,
I have been completely sickend by what these terrorists have done. It's hard to find words to describe the complete horror, sadness and anger.
However, we as individual Americans cannot say,
" I don't want my tax dollars sent overseas to the Middle East for years and years. I don't want my tax dollars to benefit both Iraq and Iran. I don't want my tax dollars quietly aiding Afganistan in their struggle against the Soviets, nor do I want my tax dollars to subsidize zero-interest loans for Arabs to open up businesses in America, while no American could even think of getting such a gift. O don't want my tax dollars to pay for Arabs to attend schools we only wish we could send our own children to. I don't want my tax dollars to go towards Military aid, financial aid, revenues to OPEC, or to any monies to the river of wealth to the Middle East."
Can we as INDIVIDUALS say any of that and make sure that the taxes we pay go where we wish it to? NO...we can't. No more than INDIVIDUAL people in Afgansistan can say, "I don't want to aid and abet terrorists." " I don't want anyone going to America and taking thousands of civilian's lives away from them".
I may be ignorant to some things in life. As a matter of fact, I KNOW that I am. But I know that people of Afganistan have it the same way we do as far as individuals.
There are muslin families who live in my area who are petrified to leave their homes for fear of retaliation in the very neighborhoods that they have lived safely in and CONTRIBUTED to helping the neiborhoods a safe place to live for all. It's all so very very sad.
Seems there are no answers. No decisions that we as individuals can have any say over or have any decision in.
Nothing in life, no matter where we are, is really "free".
goodnight,
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COMF
Nothing in life, no matter where we are, is really "free".
Our souls are free, Somebody.
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.