I'm A Better Parent Than Any JW. (page 2)

Oldhippie

Navco....I'd like to respond to what you have writtten but I have no idea what you just said. ANYWAY....I am just a dumb country boy and I really hesitate to stick my neck too far out there but my daughter was disfellowshipped several months ago. I love her more than life and would NEVER shun her under any circumstances. She told me she was blown away by the fact that her parents stood by her and defended her dignity and person. She has been reinstated and I guess that I (or we, her parents) have done too good a job of indoctrinating her into JW ways. She feels that she deserved whatever she got. I am trying to get us all into counseling. I do not know what else to do.

Wounded Heart

had to check out satan sites 4 demonic humans who where cast out of the truth ha ha bitter souls the wts will never fall its backed by jehovah u can wish all u want like your father does but alas stupid ones u open your eyes and the truth sets in jehovahs people are the truth go join your pagan religions and watch uyour self choke on blood NYc is just another last day happening yous sorry lives are running shorter the worst US deaths ever the time is neigh stupid ones hope u hada nice life!

actually, most here decided to leave on their own accord and are very happy with their decision...i know I am.

Kat

Wounded Heart

Love by giving to & accepting others unconditionally = true, pure love

8yr old "Pirate" has said it beautifully: "When in doubt, do the loving thing."

Englishman

Oldhippie,

Good for you. Your daughter will always remember how you stood by her, now she will feel that she is of some value.

Englishman.

..... fanaticism masquerading beneath a cloak of reasoned logic.

Teirce

My dad weilded it like a weapon over me when I left that, "I'd no longer be the executor of his will." Big deal. How about some goodwill and Satan Speed and bon voyage and may the evil wind be at your back?

So fathers - I lost my dad when he insulted me upon leaving. He placed too much pride in the fact that it was only HIS (5) sons in the KH who never a one had been df'ed. I fixed his wagon, but not for that reason/motive. Nevertheless, I broke his fucking record, and he took it out.

Whosoever can cling onto the goddam love you had inherent as a natural parent, and not the terror-inducing inhumanity of an Orwellian mini-clone factory, you're doing your children a big favor.

Peace

LittleToe

Back to the thread (avoiding navco79's idiotic points entirely):

Not all JW parents shun their children.
I certainly know that mine didn't when my sister was DF'ed a few years ago.
She got reinstated, and is now looking likely to be out again, with a similar result as before.

Not all will react the same way.
My bro. shunned her - I could not (and will not).

Just to address Julie's point about unconditional love:
The bible does teach the doctrine of "grace" (regardless of the comments of Wt. on 1Cor.10:12, etc.).
The illustration of the "prodigal son" (or more importantly his father) is a point in case.

Just my 2p (from a recently woken, but currently still active dub).

Latte

Englishman,

I reckon you are right. You are a better parent than a lot of JW’s. The FEAR that children are instilled with from a VERY young age, is most saddening to say the least. I remember the dread of Armageddon coming in ‘75’. I would have been about 13 then It’s only in the last couple of year’s that I have had my eyes opened, to realize that it is FEAR of many JW teaching’s disfellowshipping/ Armageddon/ loss of friends, etc, that keep many in the religion. Just how do you get through this??

Oldhippie/Ozzipost

I truly wish you both well with your daughter's. Your example,I'm sure will be getting through to them.

Latte

SixofNine

The bible does teach the doctrine of "grace" (regardless of the comments of Wt. on 1Cor.10:12, etc.).

Uhm...no, not entirely true. The "bible" does include that concept, by no stretch of any reasonable persons imagination does the bible "TEACH" that concept. Perhaps a handful of scriptures "allude to that concept, but it is certainly opposite the tone of the bible as a whole.

Englishman

Cheers, Latte,

M Scott Peck states in "The road less travelled" that all kids are terrified of being abandoned, as abandonment for a child = death.

I was brought up as a dub from age 7 and it took me years afterwards to rid myself of this fear of abandonment. Normally one works through this at puberty, but dub kids don't have the luxury of a normal puberty so they carry a lot of childish stuff around with them as adults. That is, IMO, why they are so immature.

Englishman.

..... fanaticism masquerading beneath a cloak of reasoned logic.

LittleToe

Hi 6of9,

Sorry, I wasn't trying to turn this thread into a scripual discussion of doctrine (wrong forum for that), just to highlight that "unconditional love" is not as alien a concept to the bible as Julie may think.
I'll try to be a little more careful when talking about my take on things, in future - thanks for the wakeup call.

LT

jayhawk1

Englishman, you are the type of Dad I wish my father really was. Not to say that my dad did a bad job, but because of the JW brainwashing, I was once shunned for dating a "worldly" girl by him. It was not until after I broke up with her that my dad resumed talking to me. I hate the JWs for what they do.

"Hand me that whiskey, I need to consult the spirit."-J.F. Rutherford

I'm A Better Parent Than Any JW.

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