I think there are the LaVey "satanists" who don't really worship a creature but espouse a concept, and there are the real satanists who really do worship a being. Both are probably into it for the shock value.
If someone says they worship Satan
by free2beme 26 Replies latest jw friends
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daystar
By the way, it is not magic, that is like pulling a rabbit from the hat. It is spelt Magick, in the world of the occult.
Not necessarily. Aleister Crowley was the one who started spelling it with the K as a way of differentiating it from the stage magic of illusionists. That does not make the other spelling any less accurate, or not enough so to necessitate correction. Besides, anyone who mistakes stage magic for the other... well, I say let them go on thinking it.
- You are a Satanist from many a Christian's perspective, and rightfully so by their way of thinking. And so am I. Deal with it, accept it.
Satan is as real as any other immaterial being one might choose to believe in.
You might consider reading Anton La Vey's Satanic Bible for the answers to many questions you may have. You may be surprised. I have a soft copy of it if you want. PM me your email address.
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pdx
I used to worship satan. But that was when I was A "J.W." Look at Jeh/Satan numbering Isral. Compare 2 Sam 24:1 and 1 Chronicles 21:1
And for some using the NWT the "HE" is added from the original text.
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pdx
Oh PS, if you don't think Jah is evil like Satan. See Isaiah 45:7 from the KJV I form the light, and create darkness.
I make peace, and create "EVIL" I the Lord do all these things...
Many worship the MIGHTY MAN OF WAR and JEHOVAH OF ARMYS.
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ut I will worship The prince of peace
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lisavegas420
I know this is off topic, but I saw a bumper sticker the other day that said:
"Dyslexic Satan worshipers sell their souls to Santa."
I saw an interview with the mother of Darrell Ferguson, 28, the youngest person put to death in Ohio. She said her son had mental problems and didn't understand what he was doing or saying.
And I agree with free, I believe most people that claim to be Satan Worshippers do so for the shock value.
lisa
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Sirona
Free2beme,
With respect, I think you are showing some lack of knowledge about the different types of "satanism" and how it relates to neo-paganism.
There are those who call themselves Satanists who indeed worship a being called Satan. As someone pointed out, I find it unusual that you don't think he exists when you believe in the Goddess and God.
There are also those who are Satanists who don't consider Satan to be a being, rather they see him as a concept of extreme independence and lack of need for a higher power. Almost the idea that the power is within us, not some "god".
Note this:http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html
The Nine Satanic Statements
from The Satanic Bible, ©1969
by Anton Szandor LaVey
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1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
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Sirona
The Nine Satanic Sins
by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1987
1. Stupidity—The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.
2. Pretentiousness—Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.
3. Solipsism—Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.
4. Self-deceit—It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements” but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!
5. Herd Conformity—That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.
6. Lack of Perspective—Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.
7. Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies—Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.
8. Counterproductive Pride—That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.
9. Lack of Aesthetics—This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing—it’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.