The Bastard told on my dad

by Lilycurly 55 Replies latest jw friends

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  magoo

  ..........mary,i would like to say one thing to you............you rock!!!! tell it like it is, you made my day.

  magoo
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  jaguarbass

  I wrote my DA letter, very clear and also very surprinsingly "Apostate" according to the elders. You poor thing. The horse is out of the barn in your case. My mother and brother also wrote da letters with similar results. I recommend to others who want to leave this demonic cult to just walk away. Use passive ressistance. Bite your tounge, hold your piece. Dont answer the door or phone to Jws.
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  dust

  True love is never conditional, agapa. Romans 13. If you feel that to love an "apostate" daughter unconditionally would be a sin, even a mortal sin, then God would probably recognise true love. If God wants us to love, then which love is greater? The one where we are willing to sacrifise ourselves loving our children, or the one where we try to rescue ourselves by shunning them?
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  Grace

  I'm a high school English teacher. When I teach Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 and show the cheesy movie, there's a wonderful scene where we see someone rat out his neighbor for having books which is forbidden in this futuristic society (allowing only for censored literature...does this remind you of another secret society that censors all print material and forbids its members to read anything else?).

  A couple of years ago, my husband and I went out for dinner on New Years Eve. By this time I had already DAed. The next week he was pulled into the back room as well...apparently someone saw him. He had to admit to the "Elders" that he is a very weak man when it comes to his wife, and this got them off his back Today I was at the mall having lunch with my non-JW parents and I saw a whole table of witnesses out in "service". They all noticed me and looked pathetically at me. They don't know me at all, nor do they want to.

  It's their loss and my gain.

  Grace
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  mama1119

  I am so sorry to hear this, what a dreadful situation. But, the pinching on the nose sounds pretty funny!
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  ocsrf

  So the elders are basically saying that you and your mom can't associate either? That's bull crap. You're out. She's out. Your dad and mom are a package deal and the elders can't stop them from associating with each other. If he goes someplace with your mom, and you are going there with your mom, the elders are putting their noses where it doesn't belong. All he has to say is that he is not speaking with you and that would satisfy their idiotic rules. There is NOTHING that says that he has to become a recluse in order to avoid associating with you, when you and your mom have every right to do so

  Great point Scully,

  I didn't think about that, the mother has every right to have her daughter along anytime of the day or night in the home out of the home and not one thing the Elders can or should say about it. The Father is still married and owes cosideration to his wife, which means he has to tolerate the DF daughter being along. If he were to try to bann her from their lives inspite of what his wife wants, than he would be no different then the worldly husband who try bann their JW wives from attending meetings and the like.

  OC
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  Sheri

  But, if she were to leave and start dogging God and the way He is worshipped by us and speak negatively about Him to others and how we are a cult and the whole nine yards, then I would probably curb my associaiton with her.

  Why would you add "start dogging God and speak negatively about Him to others"... Why do you have to add "God" when in fact are you not really saying the "Organization".

  When I said that I was not attending meetings and was asked why, I gave my reasons only to have the Sister declare that I had left God and that No One (meaning me) would ever break her relationship with God. Yet I said nothing of the sort and reminded her that I most certainly had not left God, infact I felt closer to him and studied more than ever, plus why would she even think I would want her to not have a realationship with God.

  The "Society" aka GOD (if JW) has so brainwashed people that they can not even have a personal realtionship with their creator without it being through a big building in Brooklyn.

  I suggest that you put your thoughts to the test, as suggested by another post, and ask an elders if this is the agape way and just see if they agree with you, would be a real test of that unity they claim to have as the only ones that worship exactly alike and with the mark of love. Try practicing true agape and see what happens.

  Peace & Love,

  Sheri
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  Swan

  So the bastard he calls a friend just went and told on him. And it seems like the elders went on another speach behind my back about how much of an apostate I am, and a danger, and how I shouldn't have to be going out with my family at my age. And now we're back where we began. With mom and the rest of the family being very upset...and we're wondering what will happen now. It feels like going round ans round in circles.

  This is great! You haven't gone in circles. The elders are the ones making themselves look like the self-righteous morons they really are. The more they talk you down to your father, the better off you are. Take the high road. Soon your father may see that they have no business interfering in your life. Eventually he may realize they have no business interfering in his life either. When given a choice of you or the Gestapo and the backstabbing "brothers" who report every move to them, who do you think your father will pick?

  and how I shouldn't have to be going out with my family at my age.

  The next time you hear about them talking about you this way, you may want to throw in one of these comments.

  • "Who do they think they are to try to tell me not to associate with family?"
  • "I thought they were a family togetherness religion?"
  • "Well, it must bother them that I am no longer under their authority. I'm just sorry they are taking it out on you!"

  Tammy
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  Scully

  how I shouldn't have to be going out with my family at my age

  I would make a very pointed phone call to the Elders who said that, and tell them that since they confirm that you are a big girl now, that it is NONE of their effing business if you and your mother associate together. You both quit their stupid asinine micromanagment bull$h!t cult and you do not answer to them. And then remind them again what they said above, and tell them that YES you are a BIG GIRL now and don't want them bitching about your associations with your mother who is no longer part of their stupid asinine micromanagment bull$h!t cult and no longer answers to them either. The fact that your father and mother are still together and still go places together is not a matter for the Elders to interfere with. It's NONE of their business. You can threaten them with a harassment lawsuit too.

  They are putting the screws to your father to indirectly punish you. That is harassment imo. Tell them to "manger le merde et mourir".
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  sspo

  This is right from the elders book on page 103, maybe you can give it to your father to read

  The principle set forth in Jesus' words at Matthew 10:
  34-38 has a bearing on situations involving disfellowshipped or disassociated relatives.

  Special and difficult problems may arise in relation to social gatherings.

  Loyal worshipers of Jehovah will want to adhere to the inspired counsel at I Corinthians 5:11.

  Normally, a close relative would not be disfellowshipped for

  associating with a disfellowshipped person unless there is spiritual association or an effort made to justify or excuse

  the wrongful course.

  remind your father he has the blessing from GB to associate with you as his own flesh and blood