Halfway, I totally understand you wanting to tell her the truth about the WTS. I couldn't hold my tongue either and now my mom is not talking to me. sighs. Was it worth it to prove a point. No, I knew she would take it there.
Are some people better off staying in the WTS?
by HalfWayThere 22 Replies latest jw friends
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JWdaughter
My mom, like some in your family, seem to take more offence at people marrying after they are living together than I can understand.
My mom acts like celebrating a wedding after a couple has had sex is obscene or something. Which to *me* says she is way too focused on the sexual aspect of marriage. Is that the only reason she married? For sex? You might want to ask your loved ones if that is all marriage is about to them. If FINALLY making an 'honest woman' out of your fiance isn't enough to celebrate, what is?
Blessings on your upcoming marriage. I am sorry about the problems that you have with your family, but you are blessed that you still have comm. with them. And if your sisters don't want to go, ask another family member to take your mom. Sisters don't need to be involved.
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monkeyshine
Now my sisters have also decided not to attend the ceremony either because of some point made at the recent DC
In my opinion that quote over rides any questions.
Being pacified is not better off to anyone. Some are on drugs real bad and if they weren't, maybe they would go crazy. I myself was on a 5 year trip through that world and always "knew" that I could never deal with life without that NUMBED world. All my guilt fears and worries were taken care of. I was homeless, starving, freezing, and hurting everyone I knew but it didn't quite get to me because I had an UMBRELLA. I was convinced that was the only way. I was defective. Now, after 5 years clean, I see that as ridiculous. Getting away from all the guilty feelings I was made to feel (by u no hoo) actually helped me. I suddenly was starting a new life all together. Getting clean wasn't taking another shot at JW life, it was starting a NEW life after I realized maybe Jehovah wasn't staring at me.
IMO----An illusion is never good because I feel in our subconscious we always know the truth. The REAL truth...the truth that nothing is worth turning away family and friends.
Do to the age factor, you really can do no wrong, one way or the other, in my opinion.
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Arthur
There are indeed many people who would be extremely lost without the org. Many people have a need to believe in a Judaizing god who demands them to jump through hoops and perform endless cycles of busy work. It gives them a sense of security. It's sort of like people who need to be institutionalized. The life inside is devoid of real happiness and joy, but the cell walls and bars keeps them feeling safe and secure.
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SirNose586
I agree that older folks need a social network. They might not get the attention they deserve within the hall, but at least there is a hall there. Better than being alone and neglected.
Work on getting the young people out. They're the ones who could risk being stuck inside the org for a few decades!
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bigmouth
Hi HalfWay There. I think you best leave her in the space she's become accustomed to. I can't imagine the distress that would be your mums if she were to DA eventually. It's bad enough for someone a quarter of her age.
Returning a domesticated animal to the wild will almost certainly mean its death.
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Gill
IIt's too late for the older ones. The ones over sixty stand only a small chance of readjusting once they leave.
As for the ones who are about to leave it too late to have children, well, I think a lot of bitterness is about to settle on them. They could well feel a kind of unrelenting heartbreak that no one can fix if they discover the 'truth about da troof!'
As for the young ones, I agree with SirNose, we need to concentrate on those ones.
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katiekitten
I'm afraid that maybe one day a crack might appear in her tough shell and she'll actually listen to what I'm saying. And then everything in her world would fall apart.
I agree, I dont think there is any virtue in rocking peoples world just for the sake of it.
If they are happy and the delusion they are living under is not causing them any upset or limiting their life in any way then whats the point of taking it away. I think there are a set of older people whose lives wouldnt have been much different if they had chosen a different religion (and given their age they WOULD have chosen one religion or another).
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Gill
Come to think of it, I hope all my relatives stay JWS!!!!!
Christmas, Birthdays and any holidays are much less expensive this way!!!!
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Mary
All this has really brought my opinions of the religion to the forefront again, resulting in a lively discussion on the phone with my mum last night. After the conversation ended I began to think what would happen if my mum was ever to see what a load of crap the WTS is. Her whole life would crumble around her and even though my mum is a strong woman, I don't see her surviving that - losing social contact with her daughters and grandchildren, losing her JW friends. She doesn't drive, so she would have no life. Has anyone else faced a similar situation, where you wish a family or friend could see the light, but know that they wouldn't survive coming out of it? What do you think?
This is my situation with my parents. I do not tell them what I know about this religion, because they're elderly and in my father's case, I think if he found out that this wasn't "the Truth", it would literally kill him. This religion is what they've known for most of their lives, so at this point, I will not say anything to them. I let them believe that the New System is 'right around the corner' as my father has a morbid fear of dying and it comforts him to think that maybe the New System will be here shortly.
It's sad that your Dub sisters are being so silly about your wedding. It's unfortunately, the trademark of this religion though. If it were me, I would not say anything to your mother about what you know about the religion. With many elderly Dubs, ignorance is bliss and I say 'let them be'.