Julia
YAHWEH is BAAL
by sinis 62 Replies latest watchtower bible
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mP
Firstly many ancient gods had the same name as they travelled from culture to culture. El becomes Bel in Babylon which no doubt becomes Baal as well. As per the culture back then vowels often change slightly, sometimes its Amen, Amun, Amon etc, but the root consontants can be seen.
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*lost*
mp sure
but YHWH .....YAWEH IS NOT THE NAME OF THE TRUE GOD OF THE BIBLE..... it is the name of another god. But we have been decieved into thinking it is YAWEH, JEHOVAH.... it is not
IT IS YHVH .... THAT IS THE PROPER TETTRAGRAMMATRON ( i think i spelled that wrong )
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mP
@lost
The jews thought el was yahweh, just like Abrahams god, El Shaddai was the same as the god of Moses(exodus 3). Different names but the concept is the same and thats whats presented in the bible. It doesnt seem to bother the ot that god changes his name all the time. Thats simply consolidation, new peoples introduced into the confederation spoke different languages so they had different names for the same "god" concept.
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*lost*
but the HEBREWS used YHVH ... which is the proper rendition ... yaweh, jehovah is pagan.
Look it up, look at my thread YHWH v YHVH for some more info
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Julia Orwell
Cool I will!
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tornapart
The Jews were bound to be soaked up by the surrounding religious culture. All through the OT it shows they spent most of their time following the gods of the surrounding nations rather than their own god. Even setting up high places and calf worship, supposedly as part of their worship of their one god. Their own god condemned it all, icluding all the practices that went with it.
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*lost*
yes .. they couldn't stay faithful, no matter what he did for them, no matter what he gave them they still would not stay faithful. I used to think, why, ffs, why didn't he just squash em and say fook this, I've had enough.
so I had to research it cos it really bugged me.
LOVE. HE KEPT AFTER THEM COS HE LOVED THEM.
Book of Enoch says he was virtually heart-broken (ante-deluvian) at the state of everything when Satan corrupted everything. Says he 'wept'.
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*lost*
LV - looking at Remnants of Giants now.
will come back to you on it
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DATA-DOG
" That chart is interesting. How can Yahweh or Jehovah be the son of another god? I thought Yahweh(Jehovah) was eternal to eternal. "
If YHVH is " the Word " and EL is the Father, perhaps the Word was with EL in the beginning. The question is, the beginning of what? As far as being eternal, well that's another issue. If YHVH was formed from the very substance of El, then he could be eternal in that way. Then again, what is eternity from a human's standpoint? We only live so long..
Perhaps Jehovah is BAAL, and YHVH is Christ. Interesting. Whatever the case is, the WTBTS doctrine is not THE TRUTH.