We're Not a Religion, Fundys or a Cult!!!!!!

by Gill 19 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Gill
    Gill

    The recent 'Creation' Awake had the Watchtower repeating at regular intervals that they were NOT Fundamentalists!

    In the past they've insisted they are not a Religion. In the words of Rutherford, 'Religion is a Snare and a Racket!'

    They have insisited that they are not a Cult simply because they don't fill all the criteria....just most of them.

    So, What is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, if not a Fundamentalist Religious Cult?

  • OpenFireGlass
    OpenFireGlass
    they've insisted they are not a Religion.

    Yeah, 'bout this time last year, I debated this with my mom...

    She was like, "But we're not a religion"...

    I was like, "(runs, grabs current watchtower from her pile-o-rags) But it says right here in your WT that they define themselves as the true religion... Now how can you be the true religion, but not a religion?"...

    She Shut-Up... Poor Mom

  • Gill
    Gill

    OFG - Has your mum mentioned this again or do you think you've just planted a little seed of thought in her mind?

    It is tragic when we hear our parents mouth the Watchtower words and then realise that they don't even know what they've said, read or even thought.

  • OpenFireGlass
    OpenFireGlass
    OFG - Has your mum mentioned this again or do you think you've just planted a little seed of thought in her mind?

    Hey Gill, Yeah, I'm sure that I planted a seed... I just don't want to over water it, and cause it to mold and rot

    We've talked about other things since... but I let her bring it up... She finally let's me finish a comment, without cutting me off before I finish (when she asks me a question)..

  • V
    V

    One of the Society's Corporations is "The Religious Order of Jehovah's Witnesses"

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    They made too many predictions about the end that proved wrong and so they ended up getting ridiculed before the world. Their doctrine is also for ever changing, often with grevious consequences for their followers, and has no stability and never did. That sounds to me like a cult.

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Gill

    It is tragic when we hear our parents mouth the Watchtower words and then realise that they don't even know what they've said, read or even thought.

    If anyone doubts that the WTS uses mind control methods there is the best argument. They don't even know what they have been taught

  • Atlantis
    Atlantis

    Yearbook-1995-pp.-5-6 Among the full-time workers were 15,145 members of the global Bethel family. They help to provide literature, supervision, and other beneficial services in support of the worldwide work of Bible education. Of these, 5,082 serve at the world headquarters in Brooklyn, New York, and at nearby facilities. All of them are members of the Order of Special Full-Time Servants, a religious order that is devoted exclusively to the ministry. Yearbook-1996-pp.-8-8 Among those in full-time service are 16,468 Bethel family members around the globe. Of this number, 5,709 serve at the world headquarters; all of these are members of the Order of Special Full-Time Servants. Yearbook-1997-p.-28 There are 5,581 volunteers who serve at the world headquarters on a regular basis; all of these are members of the Order of Special Full-Time Servants. All together, there are 16,966 Bethel family members around the globe. Housing is provided for them in the Society’s facilities. Yearbook-1998-p.-29 Altogether, there are 16,982 volunteers who regularly work at the Society’s headquarters and branch facilities worldwide. Because of the circumstances under which they serve, these Bethel family members are all included in the Order of Special Full-Time Servants. Yearbook-1999-p.-27 As the number of publishers increases—and 316,092 more were baptized this past year—additional branch facilities are also required. At present, 17,781 in Bethel families around the earth render service as members of the Order of Special Full-Time Servants. Yearbook-2000-p.-47 Needed Branch Facilities The increase in the number of praisers of Jehovah in many lands has also made the building of new branch offices necessary. Such branch offices, as well as the world headquarters, are staffed by Bethel family members, who are included in the Order of Special Full-Time Servants. Yearbook-2001-p.-26 New and Expanded Branch Facilities To care for the growing number of Jehovah’s Witnesses and to equip them for their ministry, it has also been necessary to provide suitable branch facilities. A number of these were dedicated within the past year. Such facilities worldwide are staffed by a total of 19,587 ordained ministers, all of whom are members of the Order of Special Full-Time Servants. Yearbook-2002-p.-30 Staffing such branch facilities worldwide are a total of 20,133 ordained ministers. All are members of the Order of Special Full-Time Servants. (NAME CHANGES TO:) WORLDWIDE ORDER OF SPECIAL FULL TIME SERVANTS OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Yearbook-2003-p.-30 Worldwide, a total of 19,823 ordained ministers staff such branch facilities. All are members of the Worldwide Order of Special Full-Time Servants of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Yearbook-2004-p.-30 Worldwide, a total of 19,848 ordained ministers staff such branch facilities. All are members of the Worldwide Order of Special Full-Time Servants of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Yearbook-2005-p.-30 Worldwide, a total of 20,092 ordained ministers staff such branch facilities. All are members of the Worldwide Order of Special Full-Time Servants of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Nevada-

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    By the actual definition of "fundamentalist" they aren't. They do not believe in the diety of Jesus Christ or Eternal Salvation by Grace alone, which are two of the four core beilefs of fundamentalism. They meet enough of the defining characteristics of a cult to be called such by anybody that knows much about them.

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff
    By the actual definition of "fundamentalist" they aren't. They do not believe in the diety of Jesus Christ or Eternal Salvation by Grace alone, which are two of the four core beilefs of fundamentalism. They meet enough of the defining characteristics of a cult to be called such by anybody that knows much about them.

    I don't know - I thought fundamental religions were those that accepted literally the Bible or other religious/sacred books as their inerrant guide. I was not aware that 'fundy's' were defined as an absolute. Please source your 4 core beliefs. Jeff

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