When i have to choice of spending it with Him or the Devil, i think my first pick will be God....i do not know about you but i would not want to burn for an eternity...and that is all the devil has to offer :)
What is the point?
by sanjanicole 14 Replies latest jw friends
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freetosee
Freetosee, said that teh men of faith will come back to reestablish their kingdom, my question is where is that found inthe Bible?
No, I didn’t say that.
The jws are taught that, men of faith will reestablish the paradise conditions. This is done under the direction of Christ and his 144000, who make up the heavenly kingdom.
If you want to challenge the wt teaching, I recommend meeting with jws who will happily come to your home and bring lots of books. Here is an overview for you:
Belief
Scriptural Reason
Bible is God's Word and is truth
2 Tim. 3:16, 17 ; 2 Pet. 1:20, 21 ; John 17:17 Bible is more reliable than tradition
Matt. 15:3 ; Col. 2:8 God's name is Jehovah
Ps. 83:18 ; Isa. 26:4 ; 42:8 , AS; Ex. 6:3 Christ is God's Son and is inferior to Him
Matt. 3:17 ; John 8:42 ; 14:28 ; 20:17 ; 1 Cor. 11:3 ; 15:28 Christ was first of God's creations
Col. 1:15 ; Rev. 3:14 Christ died on a stake, not a cross
Gal. 3:13 ; Acts 5:30 Christ's human life was paid as a ransom for obedient humans
Matt. 20:28 ; 1 Tim. 2:5, 6 ; 1 Pet. 2:24 Christ's one sacrifice was sufficient
Rom. 6:10 ; Heb. 9:25-28 Christ was raised from the dead as an immortal spirit person
1 Pet. 3:18 ; Rom. 6:9 ; Rev. 1:17, 18 Christ's presence is in spirit
John 14:19 ; Matt. 24:3 ; 2 Cor. 5:16 ; Ps. 110:1, 2 We are now in the 'time of the end'
Matt. 24:3-14 ; 2 Tim. 3:1-5 ; Luke 17:26-30 Kingdom under Christ will rule earth in righteousness and peace
Isa. 9:6, 7 ; 11:1-5 ; Dan. 7:13, 14 ; Matt. 6:10 Kingdom will bring ideal living conditions to earth
Ps. 72:1-4 ; Rev. 7:9, 10 , 13-17 ; 21:3, 4 Earth will never be destroyed or depopulated
Eccl. 1:4 ; Isa. 45:18 ; Ps. 78:69 God will eliminate present system of things in the battle at Har-Magedon
Rev. 16:14 , 16 ; Zeph. 3:8 ; Dan. 2:44 ; Isa. 34:2 ; 55:10, 11 Wicked will be eternally destroyed
Matt. 25:41-46 ; 2 Thess. 1:6-9 People God approves will receive everlasting life
John 3:16 ; 10:27, 28 ; 17:3 ; Mark 10:29, 30 There is only one road to life
Matt. 7:13, 14 ; Eph. 4:4, 5 Human death is due to Adam's sin
Rom. 5:12 ; 6:23 The human soul ceases to exist at death
Ezek. 18:4 ; Eccl. 9:10 ; Ps. 6:5 ; 146:4 ; John 11:11-14 Hell is mankind's common grave
Job 14:13 , Dy; Rev. 20:13, 14 , AV (margin) Hope for dead is resurrection
1 Cor. 15:20-22 ; John 5:28, 29 ; 11:25, 26 Adamic death will cease
1 Cor. 15:26 , 54 ; Rev. 21:4 ; Isa. 25:8 Only a little flock of 144,000 go to heaven and rule with Christ
Luke 12:32 ; Rev. 14:1 , 3 ; 1 Cor. 15:40-53 ; Rev. 5:9, 10 The 144,000 are born again as spiritual sons of God
1 Pet. 1:23 ; John 3:3 ; Rev. 7:3, 4 New covenant is made with spiritual Israel
Jer. 31:31 ; Heb. 8:10-13 Christ's congregation is built upon himself
Eph. 2:20 ; Isa. 28:16 ; Matt. 21:42 Prayers are to be directed only to Jehovah through Christ
John 14:6 , 13, 14 ; 1 Tim. 2:5 Images should not be used in worship
Ex. 20:4, 5 ; Lev. 26:1 ; 1 Cor. 10:14 ; Ps. 115:4-8 Spiritism must be shunned
Deut. 18:10-12 ; Gal. 5:19-21 ; Lev. 19:31 Satan is invisible ruler of world
1 John 5:19 ; 2 Cor. 4:4 ; John 12:31 A Christian ought to have no part in interfaith movements
2 Cor. 6:14-17 ; 11:13-15 ; Gal. 5:9 ; Deut. 7:1-5 A Christian should keep separate from world
Jas. 4:4 ; 1 John 2:15 ; John 15:19 ; 17:16 Obey human laws that do not conflict with God's laws
Matt. 22:20, 21 ; 1 Pet. 2:12 ; 4:15 Taking blood into body through mouth or veins violates God's laws
Gen. 9:3, 4 ; Lev. 17:14 ; Acts 15:28, 29 Bible's laws on morals must be obeyed
1 Cor. 6:9, 10 ; Heb. 13:4 ; 1 Tim. 3:2 ; Prov. 5:1-23 Sabbath observance was given only to Israel and ended with Mosaic Law
Deut. 5:15 ; Ex. 31:13 ; Rom. 10:4 ; Gal. 4:9, 10 ; Col. 2:16, 17 A clergy class and special titles are improper
Matt. 23:8-12 ; 20:25-27 ; Job 32:21, 22 Man did not evolve but was created
Isa. 45:12 ; Gen. 1:27 ; Matt. 19:4 Christ set example that must be followed in serving God
1 Pet. 2:21 ; Heb. 10:7 ; John 4:34 ; 6:38 Baptism by complete immersion symbolizes dedication
Mark 1:9, 10 ; John 3:23 ; Acts 19:4, 5 Christians gladly give public testimony to Scriptural truth
Rom. 10:10 ; Heb. 13:15 ; Isa. 43:10-12 http://www.watchtower.org/library/jt/index.htm
You initial question shows me that you are not informed well about jws. Most posters here, like myself, are EX-jws. So I think it would be fair to speak to jws directly and challenge their teaching.
So why not contact them? https://watch002.securesites.net/contact/submit.htm
If you do I would be thrilled to hear how your exchange of biblical reasoning went. Who knows you may come back as a jw defendant.
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greendawn
According to the dubs they will supply about 55 000 out of the 144 000 of those they believe will go to heaven, the concept is of course wrong since the number 144 000 is symbolic just like everything else in its context as found in Revelation. The JWs believe in the grossly heretical idea that Christians are divided into two groups one of which will remain on earth for ever.
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bikerchic
Hello sanjanicole and welcome to JWD!
Why would you want to serv a God that will not allow you to enter into His Kingdom, to get to spend an eternity with Him, i know that's what i want...
I would wonder why one would want to spend an eternity with a god that is punitive? An eternity is a very long time!
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sanjanicole
Freetosee....i may not have had a lot experience when it comes to JW's but i have had some contact with them, and htey have not turned me over yet. I've been through too much to give up my faith inthe Living God now.
There is no way i would want to spend an eternity....which indeed is a long time, in hell or on earth...but i know i will spend it with the God in whom i believe....because the Word of God says so...