by brunhilda40 18 Replies latest jw friends
Blondie,
in the occult there are rituals, might even be on Nissan 14 I’m not sure, where they sit in circles of five and pass the bread and wine to each other without partaking. This was mentioned as a similarity to the JW memorial of Christ. This is out of memory, but I do remember reading it here not to long ago.
fts
Thanx Freetose... I was trying to go threw the posts and can not find it. I am just trying to understand as much as I can, so that when the time comes and I can help my friend I am armed with real knowlege.
Good thinking (and good luck). They`re practices aren`t really "demonic" (whatever that means). The jws are just stupid, brainwashed and misled. You`re friend is now turning into a robot/zombie, and it`s from that perspective you must deal with him from now on (and well, from that perspective, you might be right in viewing the jws as "demonic").
where they sit in circles of five and pass the bread and wine to each other without partaking.
I have been attended memorials for almost 50 years and my family did for 50 years before that. I have attended in many US states and countries. I have never seen such a "ritual" before.
Blondie
I always found it strange that they spend so much time on demonology so that after a few years of lovin' therapy, one can se satan in every object and subject.
Blondie,
I wrote "in the occult there are rituals…" not the JW’s. The passing of the bread and wine and not partaking of it is what was mentioned to be similar to the occult or demon worshipers. Passing the wine, but no one drinking it, that is what is similar, not the sitting in circles of five (pentagram).
I am not defending this claim, I only learned it here on JWD. JW's do not have demon practices.
fts
JW's do not have demon practices
Other than ritual murder by refusing their members to take lifesaving blood transfusions, of course. I would say that is a demonic practice. There is a lot that is "demonic" about the jws, if you believe in God and the devil and all that...but they don`t have pentagrams and goats heads at the KH, no...that would have been scandalous. Gossip would have spread like a wildfire.
Thankyou all so much for the clarification... I hope my questions don't sound silly.... I will tell you one thing, as sad as the situation is with the doctrine that is used for brainwashing in this organization, it is very interesting... It is amazing what people will do to explain thier existence and have peace of mind. As I have done alot of comparitive studies of religions, this is all very fascinating and sad. My own version of god does not involve any particular secular religion. I was raised Jewish and my stepbrother and sister were catholic. We had 2 opposing religions going on at one time while I was growing up. I rejected my jewish faith and was forced to do the Bat Mitzvah ceremony. I When the rabbi confirmed that I was an adult in the religion at 13 years old, I asked him if that meant I could make my own decisions. He said YES, so I informed him that I would NEVER attend services again..... As a young adult I ended up joing catholic campus ministry, and we sat in the woods with guitars and passed the bread and wine. I found out later that the priest had been ex-commuicated for doing pagan rituals. When I moved to a small town in New England and went to my first real Mass, it was then I learned all the things I was never told and promptly left. Then I thought I would be a pagan... that went on for several years.
Now my spirtuality is real mixture of beliefs, and based on the idea of Karma or what goes around comes around. I don't want to do anything that causes harm to anyone, and live life with integrity. So I understand some of the pain that people on this board have experienced, I was shunned by my jewish family, betrayed by the priest I thought was teaching me good lessions... now I am being told by my JW friend that her husband says I am a bad association because I am a lesbian. Go figure... all I know is that as human beings it is painful and complicated to find a faith that works... thanx for all of your support
Other than ritual murder by refusing their members to take lifesaving blood transfusions, of course. I would say that is a demonic practice. There is a lot that is "demonic" about the jws, if you believe in God and the devil and all that...but they don`t have pentagrams and goats heads at the KH, no...that would have been scandalous. Gossip would have spread like a wildfire.
LOL Hellrider!
All the best Brunhilda. I hope your friend will pick up contact with again. She will find out what a good friend you really are.
fts
I may be mistaken but I saw somewhere on the board refrences to deomic when refering to the Memorial Service.
One thing to consider when reading statements such as this one! Some posters on JWD.........whether they are still JW's..........are no longer JW's.............or have never been JW's...........do not function very well in their lives and try to stir up anything they can. Probably a mental deficiency that they have never sought treatment for! These types of posters have never contributed anything positive in or out of the JW religion. They are mentally disfunctional in some way.....either large or small.
There.......I made my statement!
HappyDad
