My journey so far, thoughts?

by WingCommander 19 Replies latest jw friends

  • WingCommander
    WingCommander

    Hi Everyone!

    I've been on here nearly 5-6 years (as you can see by my profile) but hardly ever post. For years I was satisfied with reading your stories and commenting occasionally, all the while telling myself that I was still a Dub and would never change. At the beginning, I was really just curious and also wandering if people out there grew up like I did (in an orwellian hell), and had experienced what I had experienced. So I read and I read on here, at first once a week, then every day. I still read on here every day except weekends, when I ignore computers totally. I would have to say that this year really was a turning point for me. Everything hit me like a ton of bricks. That's not to say that other things haven't in my life, but I think this year I came out of my state of denial. The realization hit me that I am no longer a JW - in the Org. - that I now knew more than my parents ever did about this organization, and that if they knew what I did they would NEVER have become JW's to begin with. I think it really started in 1999, when my father died and no one in the "loving Brotherhood" seemed to give a shit. We all could have died in a plane crash and no one would have missed us. The only counseling given to my mother while he was dying was to attend meetings more and go out in more field service. No real physical or emotional support. It was sickening, and awaked my own mother to the hypocrisy of the Org. This year though I have been through a range of emotions, starting with when I viewed the video, "Witnesses of Jehovah". I had never seen everything major put into a one hour video like that. I was literally sick while watching it. I was half way through "Crisis of Conscience" at the time, and have since finished it. I'm now going to read "In Search of Christian Freedom." I have easy access to these books, as my mother bought both of them last year. (to my suprise and astonishment)

    Lately, I consistently seem to have the same range of emotions bottled up in me. Those being: great disappointment, anger at being lied to about doctrinal issues, frustration at the lack of ANY attention showed to my mother or my own family, and last but not least, an IMMENSE sense of just being conned for almost my entire life. I also have an immense sense of loss at what I missed growing up, and my mind constantly wanders back to what could have been. I think the disappointment is tied directly into that - a sense of being conned and duped for so long. I especially feel this way when I hear about how Bethel is nothing more than a company with brainwashed zombie volunteers there. This also generates anger in me whenever I see any JW's I used to know, whether I want it or not. I also feel a huge sense of loss at not finishing college or taking the college prep classes throughout high school, even though I had nearly a 4.0 all the time. The Big A was always just around the corner, so I was always talked out of looking forward to anything education related. Gee, no one ever talked to me about the consequences of NOT being educated. I guess I should have seen it though, as most of the people in the congregations were janitors, unskilled laborers, or just dirt poor. All except the Elders that owned the businesses though; they drove Cadillacs and Town Cars. I can't believe how dupped I was.

    I told my spouse just a few months ago that I was out. She being "worldy" of course knows nothing of the pain I'm in because she has never experienced anything like this. I nearly cried though while telling her, and admitted I probably need some sort of therapy. But what? With whom? I can't seem to find any cult support groups in my area either. I think that would help immensely.

    I now have a young son. He is soon 3. It is now October. For the first 2 years of his life I have allowed nothing but his Birthday. This year, I'm allowing him to dress up as SpiderMan and participate in his daycare parade and class party. I thought I'd let him have some fun. Thanksgiving has always been alot of something made about nothing in the JW world, even my family thought so, so basically I've always been participating in that. I still don't know how to feel about Christmas or Easter. Let my in-laws give him things, or not? Let them give me things, or not? Do I give them things? I have not told them yet of my mentally leaving this relgion. I have not told my mentally out mother yet either, for fear of her JW programming possibly kicking in, although she had once said to raise him both ways and let him decide later in life what he wanted to do. Every function in life is a guilt trip for me right now. Guilt for questioning, guilt for showing my mother all of these sites on the internet, guilt because that started her down the path to her exit, guilt for not knowing how to raise my own son, guilt for the what if I'm wrong scenario, guilt for not going to the 2006 Memorial, guilt for denying Christ so long, guilt for even having these feelings. What a mess!

    I have tried to go to other Churches, but the guilt is immense, probably from the constant brainwashing since birth. My wife has suggested a Unitarian church at first, but I just haven't gotten to one yet. I'm interested in Seventh Day Adventists, but again haven't gotten to one yet. What can I say? It was a busy summer. This whole new tract campaign has just about given me a panic attack when I saw the tract on here. I mean really, the apocalyptic images from the "Revelation: It's Grand Climax at Hand" book condensed into a little tract that is only going to piss everyone off at you if they read it? I mean where is the message of love and hope? Gone. The images are just like the Revelation book, and it is so scary looking that any sane person will automatically think you are a cultist nutcase and immediately want to get away from you. And somehow, they think this will kick start the Great Tribulation and make Christendom mad at them? I think the rest of the world has more important things to worry about. What a condescending, elitist attitude they have - that I used to have. So much for humility.

    Anyway, this is my brief story up to today. If I had to sum it up, I'd have to say this has been one hell of a year for me. In closing, I'd like to take this time to thank some regular posters on here that make me smile on a regular basis. They include but are not limited to: Crumpet , Drew, Mulan, Blondie, DannyHazard, Butters, RichieRich, & SickofLies, oh and Brook I think. I think some of them may be irregular now, but I hope they return soon. Since I don't really post on here often, thoughts, opinions, or just plain help are appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Wing Commander

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Welcome to the crossroads of your spiritual life. It's a rough place to be.

    You will do fine, sounds like you will give every step lots of thought.
    An opinion, just this year, see how it plays with your mother. Don't actively participate in
    holidays with the in-laws, but allow your son to do so because of the wife. See how she
    reacts. Mom cannot turn you in to the WTS if you know she has been reading Ray Franz'
    books, so just slowly ease her into accepting your changes.

  • Dansk
    Dansk

    Hi Wingy,

    still don't know how to feel about Christmas or Easter. Let my in-laws give him things, or not? Let them give me things, or not? Do I give them things? I

    Well, as soon as my wife and I knew we had been duped we decided to live the rest of our lives as happily as we could - and the joy that comes with Christmas and Easter is a part of that. So, enjoy your new-found freedom and make it a goal never to have your children suffer as you did. Let your son receive presents from your in-laws, receive them yourself and give generously in return. After all, there is more happiness in giving than receiving!

    Welcome to the REAL life - and may your mother follow you shortly!

    Ian

  • Sunspot
    Sunspot

    (((((WingCommander)))))

    It's a devastating place to be at the point you are right now.....but it DOES get better in time! Your mind is going through so many transitions and opposing opinions running through it, and this is taking an emotional toll on you. It will pass as you solidly realize that the WTS has 1) NO control over your or your life, and 2) that their teachings have very little to DO with the bible OR the Jesus they have conjured up in the JW minds.

    The WTS is corrupt and evil, and have deliberately deceived you while claiming to "speak for God". They weren't "mistaken" ....they knew then and know NOW exactly what they are doing to their followers. The sooner you can divorce yourself from these teachings, the better off you will feel inside.

    You should not be made to feel guilty about celebrating anything that you desire....and giving your little one a childhood of birthdays and Christmases to remember when he grows up----will bring you great joy and satisfaction. I carry a load of guilt for depriving my own kids of all the things they were robbed of due to my belief in the WTS teachings. Many milestones and memorable events were missed----events I can never replace for them, and are the "right" of every child to experience.

    For the seven years I have been out of the WTS.....it has taken me this long to step into a church setting.....and I took my first communion last weekened, the first since I was a small child. I am just now coming to grips with who I am and where I stand before Christ. THIS journey to Jesus is far more pleasurable than the journey into the WTS, believe me! But...this path is not for everyone and I realize that. We each have to take our own pace in our own time.....and God KNOWS just what each of us has been through and what the WTS has done TO us. HE is right there waiting when we are ready to receive Him.

    Thank you for sharing this experience with us.....I wish you peace and the comfort you so deserve....

    hugs,

    Annie

  • mama1119
    mama1119

    I think youre thoughts are very normal for someone exiting a cult. I too have a 3 year old, and I decided to celebrate holidays for her and the memories and joys it will bring her. Growing up, I wanted SOOOO badly to celebrate holidays, and be included in all the festivities, and I want her to experience that.

    You will feel more at ease as time goes by and you heal more and more. I am happy for you that you have found your way out, and happy for your 3 year old!!!!

  • FreeFromWTBS
    FreeFromWTBS

    A general therapist can help you. They are there to help you get from an unhealthy point to a healthy point. I had only studied with Witnesses for a year but I had a complete melt down. I was diagnosed with MDD with Post Traumatic Stress factors. I went to a regular therapist. He helped me tremedously. They are there to help you figure out why you have the response that you do. I found out two things about myself, I am a natural pleaser and have very high empathy levels. These characteristics created a toxic reaction with the JW doctrine. Therapy saved me.

  • Calyndra
    Calyndra

    WC,

    I have been out of the organization for 8 years, so when I planned my marriage three years ago I found myself facing one new decision after another that seemed to conflict with my upbringing. I am estranged from my JW mother (and every girl wants her mom there when she marries). I had left JWs, but I hadn't really embraced any other formal spirituality. I didn't want a non-spiritual ceremony with no soul and no feeling of being sacred in the bigger picture of life.

    A friend suggested that I contact the Unitarian Universalists. I am so very glad that I did! Under one roof there are Christians of every type, Buddhists, Pagans, Native Americans, you name it! The idea behind their meetings is simply coming together to worship in whatever form that means to you. No belief or teaching is touted as the right way, and you would be very surprised to note how many exJWs there are in attendance. Many of the meetings involve rituals designed by the congregation to reflect all religions. Gays, Lesbians, Transgendered, are welcome as well as Straight (of course).

    I think one of the aspects I appreciate most is the community programs. They often have an organization-wide potluck dinner one evening a week. There are feminine groups, male groups, art classes, music classes... Ours has a school from K-6th grade, and a choir and band for older students. One evening a week we can gather and there is a drum circle where we all grab a drum and sit around adding different beats until we're all exhausted. One person will begin with their beat, and then others join in until the walls shake. It's more emotional than I originally realized, your heart will actually feel as if it's joining in.

    I don't go all the time, but I always feel welcome when I do go, and I NEVER feel that I've been remiss when I have been away.

    It's worth looking into. When I told the Pastor that I was a JW in the past, she took me under her wing and took special care to make me feel welcome. She helped Jason and I design a wedding that fit US, and officiated in a very sweet, spiritual way that helped us to connect.

    I hope My experience with them helps.

    Kathy

  • BabaYaga
    BabaYaga

    Greetings WingCommander, and strength to you!

    You're doing JUST FINE. Counseling? Sure, but they haven't been raised a JW. It can still help a lot and give you coping skills. Frankly, this site has been such a purge for unhealed wounds I have carried around for decades.

    Above all else, trust the process, and give it TIME. You need to heal, and allow yourself to come to your own beliefs in your OWN TIME.

    Isn't it wonderful... to realize you can develop your own thoughts and beliefs? (Scary, too, and I know that well... but you will see the magnificence of it soon enough.)

    Cheers!!!

    Baba

  • Mystla
    Mystla

    It took me awhile to feel comfortable with the holidays and birthdays. Just let it happen naturally, don't push it, but don't fight it either. If someone gives you a gift, say thanks and move on.. when you are ready you will want to buy them things and recieve in return. Before you know it you'll be helping decorate the x-mas tree and planning a surprise birthday party for your wife.

    When I was first out it felt hypocritical to celebrate these things I had been against for so long.. now I just enjoy em :)

    Congrats on breaking free, there is so much out there for you to enjoy!!

    Misty

  • Sunspot
    Sunspot
    (and every girl wants her mom there when she marries).

    My apologies to WingCommander on diverting his topic for a moment.....but a few months after I left the WTS, my superfine-self-righteous-pioneer daughter decided to get married (she's in FL, Dad & I are in NY) and invited everyone in the family to her wedding.....but US. One of our sons emailed me less than two weeks before the big day because he thought we should know.

    I went and picked out a pair of crystal lovebirds and a WTS-approved and very appropriate card and mailed it off to her. As hurt as I was....there was no hint of bitterness...no nastiness...just nice thoughts I included in the card. It took her weeks to call to tell me she got the package (long after I figured it had been lost in the mail and I was about to put a tracer on it) and she made about a two-minute phone call, stating that she was on her way out to Field Service and really couldn't talk to me very long. (Why not call at night or in the afternoon?) It was a "dig" but I ignored it.

    After saying "thanks for the gift" (never mentioned what it WAS or if she liked it) so, when I asked her why we didn't get invited to her wedding.....she stumbled around and said she didn't think we could make it down. I just said.....oh. I didn't bother to argue or point out that it might have been a nice gesture to at least SEND an invitation. It was obvious that she just did not want me around.

    So I can say that there ARE some girls that DON'T want their Mom there at their wedding.

    Annie

    PS.....I forgot to say that my newest son-in-law is an elder!

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