by restrangled 21 Replies latest jw friends
I talked to my mom yesterday. She just had to vent about some "brother" in her car group this week. He had been in the hospital and racked up a $25,000.00 bill but had no insurance to pay for it. Apparently some local charity stepped in and paid the bill for him. A week after he got out, he shows up at the hall with a brand new SUV (2006).
Mom asked, "How in the world he could afford a new SUV but not the hospital bill?" He smiled and said, "Jehovah as really blessed me."
r.
Step back! Lightning is about to strike, no need both of you get zapped.
That is a rather a....., how do you say it calmly, not such a good thing to say or do. That is low..
Someone needs to send an anonymous tip off to a charity. That is disgusting. Words do not even describe how horrible that is. But becasue it is just some worldy person denied it does not really matter.
You know the scripture that says says it is not easy to get in and that there were no guarantees, that we ourselves are not guaranteed, I used to remember thinking yeah and there are going to be some that are going to be absolutley amazed as to who does get in, I always thought 'worldly' people would get in to the shock of those in the congregation when the time came, there is a nice little catholic lady who genuinely helps people and she has just taken this asshole's place (if he had one to begin with).
Now I am cranky
I'd love to tip some one off to this self righteous jerk, but mom didn't know who the charity was and I don't know who this person is. I would do it in a heartbeat if I could get the info. It makes me sick too.
r.
At last we have proof that Jehovah really exists and is actively blessing his people.
Praise the Lord!
wait a minute..............what this charity associated with false religion?
It really used to agravate me when the JW's would bash the world constantly and yet felt free to take advantage of all its secular programs and charities if they were in financial need. Which since they are not allowed higher education - happened often. Don't they realize the people who give to these charitable organization are NOT JW's but what they would term "worldly people?". What nerve! Lilly
What a pity you don't know the name of the charity that helped him. I'd pay to see his face if they got onto him and confronted him about it. How typical of a jw, all take no give.
It really used to agravate me when the JW's would bash the world constantly and yet felt free to take advantage of all its secular programs and charities if they were in financial need. Which since they are not allowed higher education - happened often. Don't they realize the people who give to these charitable organization are NOT JW's but what they would term "worldly people?". What nerve!
This is what went through my head when reading the opening post!!!! The JW hand is always open when it comes to take-take-take----but always tightly closed and the back is turned the other way when it comes to returning the favor. Of course....the WTS has slyly convinced them that "giving" people WTS literature ends any obligation that might be seen as reciprocating....not exactly an honest way of looking at it.
"Being blessed" and "taking advantage of charities they sneer at any other time"----are not the same in MY book!
Annie
Restrangled,
I feel like there is something missing in this story.
First, the charity that paid his bill: It may not be because he was seeking their help. The hospital may have applied on his behalf, because it was the only way for them to get paid. He may have simply agreed and signed, or face getting sued. So, if it was a religious charity, such as Catholic Charities, he may have had no control over that part ... though that should tell him something of the Christian love coming from many Catholics ... for they are funded by good-hearted people who give, not knowing whom they may be helping. Catholic Charities paid my $75,000 bill from my heart attack, as I did not have medical insurance at the time. I could not afford the insurance, and had lost my group health plan. I was an ex-JW at the time, but my religious affiliation did not matter to Catholic Charities.
Second, the SUV: Once the hospital bill is paid, there is no obligation for this man to then start paying the charity. He may have been in an accident, hence in the hospital. If an accident that was the fault of another driver, he may have recceived an insurance settlement to buy a replacement vehicle. He may need a new vehicle to get to work and earn a living. So, whether by insurance, or if he simply had the down payment to get into a new SUV, this of itself may not be wrong. The purpose of charities paying people's bills is so that they are not wiped out financially. If for example, a charity pays off a homeless man's hospital bill, but then upon his release he is forced back onto the streets, of what good does this do him. I would want the man to be helped further to get on his feet again ... and even enjoy a movie or eating out. So, this JW man buying an SUV is a secondary benefit of the charity paying off his hospital bill, leaving him enough money to do something he needs done in his life. What is missing is whether he needed a new vehicle. If not, then I agree, purchasing the new SUV seems very tacky. Let's hope that he truly needed a new vehicle, and that the SUV represented a wise purchase, and that he will NOT use the damn thing out in Field Service.
Third, JWs boasting in Jehovah: This part is the most nasty, as we all know how many JWs will sponge off of society at large in order to barely get by, because they think Armageddon is coming soon, or they want to "Pioneer." Oddly enough, the Watchtower Society officially disapproves of doing such a thing, but informally, they reward JWs who do it. But, boasting in God's blessing of itself is not bad ... Christians who face similar circumstances likewise boast in God or Jesus paving a way for them to get similar help. Most Christians use better sense than JWs and are grateful to the Charity. They use more discretion and do not start living the life of luxury after being helped ... but some Christians take advantage just as many JWs do ... this is the risk many good Christians, or good people of any faith, take when giving to charities. Somehow, I have to agree that when JWs boast in Jehovah, it feels far more like someone boasting in the Amway or Wal-Mart corporations blessing them. There is something deeply insincere and plastic in the way JWs say that they were blessed.
Jim Whitney
So, if it was a religious charity, such as Catholic Charities
Catholic Charities sure made me sit up and take notice when I was still a JW! They certainly changed my (WTS-warped) mind when my handicapped grandson was seen as eligible for all SORTS of wonderful things through their services. They came here to the house, filled out many forms, and opened a lot of doors for us to avail our family of things we never knew existed.
They never ONCE asked what religion we were, etc, and left quite an impression on me about their dealings with the general public. They left brochures and papers to fill out that listed all kinds of children's movies ( such as full-length Disney feature movies and cartoons), tons of children's books we could sign up for, and board games, etc ALL at no cost----AND they would deliver them and pick them back up if we had no way to get to their offices during business hours!
This branch of Catholic Charities is only one small aspect of what they do (they left an array of brochures here) and all the services were again---free of charge with no mention of what church you might happen to belong to.
It made me stop and think just WHO (or what religion) was truly serving the public----and who WASN'T....and I have nothing but the nicest things to say about this charity-----who seeks OUT those they can be of help to---and actively DOES something about it.
Annie
