The Number 1 "hole" in the doctine of Jehovah's Witnesses...

by gordon d 16 Replies latest jw friends

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  gordon d

  After years of research, I think I've finally come across the biggest hole in the basic doctrine of JW's
  
  They say that there is no hell...but that you can live for eternity in a world full of nothing but Witnesses....
  ...I'm not sure, but I think this statement contradicts itself??????
  
  
  What's your biggest hole?... Here's your opening... keep it clean!
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  SirNose586

  ...is that God needs to "settle an issue" with one of his creations: who's the best leader in the whole wide universe. They do this by experimenting with the inhabitants of one planet. Said creation decides to directly or indirectly cause suffering on people, but yet people can deal with it. God chooses to lead by a different way, but one of the only proofs of God's leadership is a mythical story which takes place in a garden, which is ruined by said creation. God gets back at said creation by killing nearly everything on the planet, except for a box full of animals and 8 humans. The next proof of His leadership: God starts a nation, but said creation causes the nation to constantly rebel. As thanks to God for all his miracles and hard work, the nation kills God's son, sending a clear message to God that they don't care for him. Failing to lead a nation of people, God tries again with a book publishing corporation. Although God's electricity leads this book publishing corporation, the ideas put out by the corporation change frequently, and with little explanation. Even though this publishing corporation is under the direction of God's electricity, nations with the internet are largely deciding that this electricity-directed corporation is not worth their time. God's book publishing organization has approximately 1/1000th of the world's population. Religions not headed by God are more popular than the one headed by God. Even in God's one, tiny religion, God still has a hard time managing things: the turnover rate is high, families are broken up, and pedophiles are protected. The humans who have lower self-esteem and lack of appreciation for higher education are great for God, but God can't work with people who take the time to educate themselves.

  Frustrated with milleniums of failed projects, God is going to show said creation who is the best leader in the universe by killing off every person on the planet, except the deluded people in his electricity-directed organization.
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  XU

  ...is that it started in the "burned over district" in upstate NY along with 50 other American religions that have morphed over the years like mormon, 7th day adventists, some others i can't remember. It was just the time and place that sort of thing was popular.
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  Warlock

  The biggest hole is: No one knows the day or the hour, and, since 1995, no one knows the generation either.

  Warlock
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  darth frosty

  Sir nose as always Bravo.
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  OnTheWayOut

  That Jesus is invisibly "present" since 1914. Those disciples really would have asked, "Excuse me, what will be the sign of your invisible presence later on?" Now, as the rest of Christendom Christianity teaches, they would have asked "What is the sign we should look for that you are about to arrive?" Remove that doctrine and the rest of modern day stuff really does fall apart.

  That he inspected his people and found the drunken President of the WTBTS, who was pretending his new book was Russell's, along with corporation lawyers and accountants, to be worthy of being called his only true servants on Earth. So let's let them keep pushing doctrinal error for decades, then get Freddy Franz in there to really put some whacko understanding to it.
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  mellisamouse

  I agree................BRAVO Sir Nose, for sure!!!
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  DannyHaszard

  Ergo,no 1914 then there can be no 1918 inspection..... The central CORE doctrine of the Watchtower,yes the reason the Watchtower came into existence was to declare Jesus second coming in 1914.When the prophecy (derived from William Miller of 1842) failed they said that he came "invisibly".
  
  Ergo,no 1914 then there can be no 1918 inspection and sealing of the 'anointed' so the entire wts doctrinal superstructure comes crashing down like a house of cards.
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  DannyHaszard

  (sorry to hijack used my two threads someone please post new thread) RAPED IN FIELD SEVICE Canada-Jehovah's Witnesses Elder pedophile criminal assault Diary leads to sex assault charge Incidents are alleged to have occurred during Jehovah's Witness visits DIANNE WOOD [email protected] reporter on case [email protected]newsroom [email protected] letters to editor Diary leads to sex assault charge Waterloo Record, Canada - 17 minutes ago ... bold, the man told a judge yesterday at Martin's trial for sexually assaulting that girl and another girl who attended Martin's Jehovah's Witnesses congregation ... KITCHENER (Nov 9, 2006) When a Kitchener man inadvertently discovered a diary in his basement that had been written by his teenage daughter, he was shocked to see it contained the name of a former elder at the family's church. The name Claude Martin was in bold, the man told a judge yesterday at Martin's trial for sexually assaulting that girl and another girl who attended Martin's Jehovah's Witnesses congregation. Martin, 76, pleaded not guilty to sexual interference of the two girls. He allegedly touched the man's daughter with his hand some time between January, 2001 and December, 2002. He allegedly touched the other girl with his penis between January, 1988 and December, 1989. What the girl's father read in the diary eventually led him and his wife to call police, he testified. Although the contents of the diary weren't disclosed in court, the man's daughter testified Martin touched her buttocks with his hand and put his finger on her vagina during a Saturday morning door-to-door visit by the pair to a Kitchener home. They were standing on a landing inside the front door, she said. The homeowner had gone downstairs briefly and his son had disappeared. She thinks she was 10 at the time. She and Martin often made the door-to-door visits to attempt to gain adherents to the Jehovah's Witnesses. Her parents, who were usually nearby in a car with other church members making similar visits, were fine with it. Kitchener's Ontario Court heard the girl's father found the diary by a fluke in the winter of 2005. He heard the family dog chewing something downstairs in the basement and went to check. The dog had a notebook. The man picked it up and scanned it. "In bold printed letters was the name Claude Martin in the middle of the page,'' he testified. He waited for his wife to come home, thinking she should be the one to talk to their daughter about what he read. After their talk, the man said based on what his wife told him, "There was validity to this.'' They didn't know what to do, he said. Several church elders heard about the allegation and visited their home. "The impression we were left with was pick up the carpet and sweep it under, and carry on with your life,'' he said. "We wanted to know there was going to be something done in the organization.'' The family had attended Martin's congregation for more than a decade before leaving because of stress long before they found the diary. The father said outside court that the church expected members to be busy at something every night of the week. He and his wife found it too much pressure, along with raising a family and other obligations. "As far as the organization, I can't say anything negative,'' the father said outside court. "This is strictly a personal dealing. The only thing I have to say negative is how they tried to sweep it under the carpet.'' When they realized how much pressure had been lifted by quitting, they never returned to the church, he said. The girl, who is now 16, told Crown prosecutor Mark Poland she never told her parents about the alleged sexual assault because, "It was embarrassing and private.'' She wrote details in her diary several years later because she was angry about a number of things, she said. "A whole bunch of stuff was bothering me and I had to write it down.'' She rejected defence lawyer James Marentette's suggestion that she might have felt Martin's briefcase on her buttocks, and not his hand, while they were standing inside the home. She said Martin had changed his briefcase from one hand to another so his hand was free to molest her. After she and her parents reported the alleged incident to police in 2005, the girl said her parents were told about the second alleged complainant. That girl was allegedly standing up against a counter when Martin came up behind her and rubbed his pelvic area against her, she said. She, herself, never talked to that girl about those allegations, she said. When the trial continues, the Crown will argue that the judge should admit a statement he said Martin made to police. Based on the statement, Poland will argue Martin engaged in prior discreditable conduct with yet a third female. The trial continues on Dec. 5. [email protected]
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  Flowerpetal

  Frustrated with milleniums of failed projects, God is going to show said creation who is the best leader in the universe by killing off every person on the planet, except the deluded people in his electricity-directed organization.

  "Electricity-driven" LOLOL!!!