What scriptures will you NEVER hear a Witness use? (page 2)

What scriptures will you NEVER hear a Witness use?

blondie

*** w87 5/1 p. 3 Do All Prophecies Come From God? ***

Traditional soothsayers and oracles do not reveal the true God’s personality or his will and purpose. They deal with the taboos and rituals demanded by a variety of local "gods." Their predictions are based on mystic knowledge and divination. Therefore, such prophecies are not inspired declarations of the divine will. Almighty God, who inspires true prophecy, is not their source.—2 Peter 1:20, 21; Deuteronomy 13:1-5; 18:20-22.

*** g93 3/22 p. 3 Why So Many False Alarms? ***

Does the failure of such predictions to come true convict as false prophets those who made them, within the meaning of Deuteronomy 18:20-22? That text reads: "The prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. And in case you should say in your heart: ‘How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?’ when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak."

*** km 12/01 p. 6 Theocratic Ministry School Review ***

21. True prophets spoke inthenameofGod and made known theirfaithinJesus. (Deut. 18:18-20; 1 John 4:1-3) [rs p. 132 par. 3; p. 133 par. 2]

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sir82

Blondie,

I don't have my CD handy. How many references to 2 Cor. 2:6 are on there?

sir82

Ooh, here's another one I like:

Matthew 25:40 - "To the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me".

Who are "Christ's brothers"?

Official WT answer: Only those who are "truly anointed", a microscopic minority, 1/10 of 1% of of Jehovah's Witnesses, 0.0001% of the world's population.

Bible answer: Matthew 12:50 - "For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."

I don't think there's too many references to Matthew 12:50 in the Index, either.

blondie

Maybe the topic should be "What scriptures will you NEVER hear a Witness APPLY properly?"

gordon d

Point taken Blondie but this link pretty much sums THAT question up:

www.THE ENTIRE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION.com

reneeisorym

Acts 3:16
By faith in the name of Jesus, this man whom you see and know was made strong. It is Jesus' name and the faith that comes through him that has given this complete healing to him, as you can all see.

2 Thessalonians 1:12
We pray this so that the name of our Lord Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ

Philippians 2:10
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, (this one is not mentioned unless they want to argue that it could not possibly mean what it says)

1 Corinthians 5:4
When you are assembled in the name of our Lord Jesus and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present,

Thanks Gordon.

Here's a few more scriptures that seems to make the Witnesses nervous:

Matthew 8:11 "...I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven .
Hebrews 11: 13-16: All these people (listed in the Old Testament) were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.
Romans 11: 1"... I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew........I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins."
Revelation 19: 1"...After this I heard what sounded like the roar of a great crowd in heaven
Zechariah 14:3: Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle. On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.

I don't even know if the Witnesses are even aware of Zechariah 14:3. While it's obviously talking about the Messiah, there's no way you can apply it to Jesus' first coming because it says that he will go out and "fight against those nations"----something he didn't do first time round. So if it's talking about The Second Coming, and if he only returned invisibly in 1914, how do they explain the part about "his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem"??? Zechariah is not a like Daniel and Revelation where they can put it down to figuritive speech or "signs".

What scriptures will you NEVER hear a Witness use?

blondie

sir82

sir82

blondie

gordon d

reneeisorym

Mary

Thanks Gordon.

Here's a few more scriptures that seems to make the Witnesses nervous:

Matthew 8:11 "...I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven .

vitty

seek2find

hamsterbait

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