What Is Wrong With the Religion "Wicca"?

by Dark_Princess 14 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • jstalin
    jstalin

    What Is Wrong With the Religion "Wicca"?
    Another false religion, like all the rest.

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    Hi Princess...

    I am currently an agnostic, I am suffering from depression because i cant seem to know or realize if this "Jehovah's Witness religion" is really true..I mean what is so true about it. Im only 17 years old and i feel that i need to find my religion. Right now im currently dating a Wiccan. Hes not bad at all. hes like one of the nicest ppl u can ever meet in ur life, but Why do JW's decieve him, along with other christians. I myself have thought about Joining in this religion for I see nothing wrong with it..I dont even know if i believe in The Devil Satan. I need help You Guys, and Im In desperate need of it. Tell me What is your view on Wiccan Witchraft. I LOVE IT!

    Well, first of all my daughtér (16) is into Wicca as well; I can link you guys up. Send me a pm and I'll give you her E-mail.

    Secondly, Jehovah's Witnesses are a 'high control group' or cult. They differ from an ordinary religion in setting thigs up to restrict your knowledge, your friends, and threaten you with taking away the friends you have if you do something wrong; and the 'somethings'are often NOT even in the Bible, they've just been made up by men.

    Thirdly the words 'made up by men' are VERY relevent in talking about religion. Whilst the 'big question' of whether there is a god is arguably open, most religions if you look at them are made up be men. Wicca is no exception (I do mean 'mankind'when I type' men'by the way).

    We dont really have much of an idea how wicca WAS practised - just like we don't really know how the Druids practised their faith, just how we don't know the steps to many traditional dances from centuries ago. Wicca, Druidism, and Morris Dancing are all attempt to bring an essentially dead religion (or dances) back to life and have been largely reinvented in the past two hundred years.

    I say this so you're not taken in by other's beleif in it's 'genuineness'.

    I also don;t think it matters. Just as religion once explained why lightning flashed (before we had meteorologists), so to this day religion provides answers. It used to provide answers for the outside world but now using religion to answer stuff about the outside world like 'where did we come from' just makes MORE questions than you started with. But for some people religion has a place in providing them answers for their internal world.

    Don't make the mistake of assuming you NEED a religion. Religion is as of much use to some people as a bicycle is of use to a fish. Maybe you've grown up having religion chuicked at you and think it's needed. Maybe it is for YOU - but one can have a perfectly decent life without picking a religion.

    All the best

    Gyles

  • juni
    juni

    The Wiccan religion comes from the old Celtic religion. They loved nature. Actually the Celts got a bad rap if you read history about them

    It was because of others' superstious beliefs and misunderstanding of the Celts way of life that caused their persecution.

    They don't worship the Devil.

    Juni

  • daystar
    daystar

    Let me begin by saying I have absolutely nothing against Wicca. However, just like Witnesses, many Wiccans just can't seem to research the roots of their own religion.

    First of all, Wicca is by no means an old religion. It's been around only for about 50 years. A man named Gerald Gardner is credited with having popularlized the movement. You will find information about this man here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Gardner.

    Gerald Gardner was an initiate into the OTO, Ordo Templi Orientis, Aleister Crowley's pseudo-masonic lodge - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordo_Templi_Orientis. He also claimed to have been initiated into a traditional sect of European witchcraft.

    Wicca is a relatively new religion which revives and popularizes pagan practices. This doesn't detract from its validity as a path, however.

    To say Wicca is an old religion is like saying that the WBTS is the same as the early church, that the Jehovah's Witnesses religion is the oldest religion on earth.

    Witchcraft in general is ancient, Wicca is not.

    You should also look into other "versions" of Wicca such as Dianic Witchcraft (or Wicca), Alexandrian Witchcraft (or Wicca), and British Traditional Witchcraft (or Wicca).

    This might give you a good start, esp. since most Wiccans I've met have never heard about any of this, sadly, or simply refuse to hear it, they want to believe so badly that they're part of this oh so ancient religion.

    As a sidenote, the popular "Wiccan rede" which is "An' it harm none, do what thou wilt" borrowed directly from Crowley's Thelema, "Do what thou Wilt shall be the whole of the Law, Love is the Law, Love under Will."

    You can find more about Thelema and Witchcraft here - http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Main_Page. Do a search on Wicca there and you will find much more information.

    Be aware that many, many Wiccans demonize ceremonial magicians, thelema and Crowley, much as WBTS demonizes just about everything. Which I always find funny considering the modern origins. Don't let anyone else tell you what to think or believe. Do your own research and practice and it can be quite powerful.

  • juni
    juni

    As daystar recommended Black Princess, it would be good to research your religion. As a JW you are not encouraged to do that. You are to accept their teachings as coming from God himself through them as their channel. And that I have learned is very dangerous.

    Here is some more info I found interesting if you are short on time for researching. Again though it's good for you to get the whole picture by looking into it.

    There is no exhaustive or authoritative source that traces Wicca back through ancient times. Wicca is mainly a 20th century manifestation of ancient nature worship systems based out of northern Europe that existed thousands of years ago.

    “Wicca is a religion rooted in the mists of Neolithic history… it is basically a fertility and agrarian society. It is a religion of nature worship and the subsequent interaction with nature that is dissented from that practice by the Celtic clans of Western Europe and the indigenous peoples of the British Isles, the builders of such monuments as Stonehenge.” 1

    “Wicca originated among the Celts and other peoples who lived in the area now known as Great Britain. Wiccans celebrate the Earth and believe all living things have a spirit. They espouse pantheism and claim to see the divine in everyone. Most celebrate monthly rituals, or "esbats," centered on the lunar cycles, and eight annual Wiccan holy days, or "sabbats," centered around the solar cycles, solstices and equinoxes.”2

    These pagan oriented nature worship systems filtered down through history in countless ways, but were mainly practiced in secret (and still is today). The secrecy was a specially necessary during the European dominance of the Roman Catholic Church.
    Basically, these pagan traditions developed out of agrarian societies where the environment had a profound effect upon survival. Those who studied the seasons and the stars sought to predict and understand the influences of the environment upon crops, cattle, rain, etc. and in so doing also desired to be able to influence these factors. It was from the desire to understand and control nature that gave rise to the various pagan and earth based worship systems. therefore, we can see when we study ancient European pagan writings, that there are countless deities.
    Additionally, an important aspect of nature worship deals with the woman. It is the woman who was able to give birth to continue the race. In cultures where offspring were needed to work the land, to hunt, and to care for the elderly, women were, of course, vitally necessary. Therefore, the female became, in some cultures, mystically endowed with special powers and this mystical endowment was transferred into the various theological pagan worship systems.
    At first, there were a great number of cultures located all over the ancient European landscape. Since Europe is a large area and since weather patterns, terrain, water supplies, temperature variations, animal types, etc., varied in those areas the development of nature worship (Druids, Celts,) also took on aspects that reflected those variables. Therefore, the ancient systems could be polytheistic, monotheistic, feminine focused, masculine focused, ritualistic, calendar based, hunter based, etc.
    Because of the multifaceted and buried background, the nature based worship systems were not codified and there is no "official" pagan tradition. Nevertheless, today's Wicca is based upon these ancient and pagan roots.

    JUNI

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