Non Sexual Child abuse.

by vomit 26 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

Gill

I forgot, that I was a great artist at school, always praised with 'Outstanding' marks in High School.
I wanted to do Art at Senior school but my parents wouldn't let me, and forced me to take Needlework, as I would need to be able to sew after Armageddon to make clothes for all those resurrected ones!
My Art teacher took me aside and asked why the hell I was taking Needlework and not Art, and I simply explained that my parents wouldn't let me. He nearly had a hissy fit. But I remember the last thing he ever told me and I still appreciate it now: 'What if Picasso had done Needlework instead of Art? What would we have done without him?!' It still gives me a sense of appreciation now.
But three of my kids are brilliant artists. One even got a place at Uni in Art school but we were to poor to pay up and she did other things instead, but I've promised her as our finances have improved recently that if any of them ever want to go to Uni we will pay. She was a brilliant mathematician as well as are the other two artists.
These kids have had hopes for their future put in front of them now instead of taken away. There's a sparkle and excitement in their eyes. There's not many JW kids that I've met who have that sparkle and zing for the future.
Ordinary parents have the chance to give their children the gift of hopes and dreams, even if they have to struggle to make those hopes and dreams come true. But JW parents even have the opportunity of giving dreams to their children taken away from them. Instead they offer a fear inspiring future of death and destruction to come, and everlasting life under and evil, megalomanial, psycopathic God. That also is abuse.
unclebruce

Vomit said: Sexual child abuse is the flavor of the day.

But to me the whole JW religion is child abuse. Sometimes through the parents directaly, i.e. "spare the rod and spoil the child."
I think it more a long the lines of munchausen syndrome by proxy. Where the abuse of the child reflects the "righteousness" of the parents.

Perfect example JW child get bullied in school even extreme bullying. The parents feel great because they can see that they must be living in Jesus' example.
They also have something to boast about to their JW club members, ok little jonny got a borken nose for standing up for his believes.

Adding to the physical and mental abuse, more mental abuse is heaped upon the child by answers such as "Oh in school everbody gets bullied" etc.
At the same time they deny their stupid religious traditions can do anything bad to children.
Child abuse is often internalized leaving the victim an emotionally retarded wreck. a few years ago my mum was gobsmacked when I told her about my treatment at school. From the age of 8 I was singled out and cained for everything from failing to sing Christmas Carols and the National anthem to not taking part in ANZAC Day. For several years, every Monday morning at Hampstead Primary School saw me stand under the Australian flag facing 700 students and teachers while they sang "God Save the Queen" at me (my mates joked that I must be the Queen) unc who was only abused by adults.
garybuss

"Peter Gregerson once said on a television program in Vancouver, B.C. that being raised a Jehovah's Witness was like being raised in an insane asylum with retarded parents." Jim Penton May 14, 1996
Gill

Unclebruce - Freedom! Yes, I forgot we can do absolutely anything now. It makes me smile everytime I buy a lottery ticket. Sounds daft, but I even buy them in the main supermarket in town not caring if any JW is about. I used to dare myself to do it and now, I couldn't give a flying fart!
Dreams and Freedom are the two most important things an ex JW can give their children, and gift themselves.
The average JW child is also incredibly superstitious and afraid of everything.
Thinking of the same young JW relative mentioned earlier, he told my older two children that he wanted a skateboard, but the one he wanted had a bull with a ring through its nose. He 'felt' he couldn't buy that because the ring through the bulls nose, he had been informed by his parents, might be symbolic of something Satanic and might influence other people to behave badly!
Who thinks in such a warped fashion????? No one in their right minds! Only a JW child could come up with such nonsense.
Isn't that also a form of abuse, instilling stupid, nonsensical fears into a child.
Sadly enough, we were invited to same JW relatives barbecue this summer. This young boy, 13 now, was constantly back for wine and beer and could have drank most of the adults under the table without a second thought. I have 3 boys from 14 to 21. The 14 year olds drank juice, even though we offered them beer if they were interested and the twenty one year old had one beer. The JW relative had 6 glasses of wine and 4 beers in the space of 3 hours.
His parents feel they cannot relax in the evenings without a bottle of wine between them, as they are so stressed and the same is true for other JW relatives who feel alcohol is their only release from their very stress filled life!
The stress of JW land on Children, and adults is oppressive and harmful. Children are brought up without a moment to relax and forget the WTBTS!
The Stress of that is incredibly abusive to a growing mind and body.
Gill

Garybuss - 'Insane Asylum!' He must have gone to the same congregation that I did.
Scully

This is an old thread of mine on the same theme: Being a JW Kid
I've always felt that the adult JWs got off pretty easily compared to JW kids.
For instance:
My dad went to work, and didn't bother his co-workers with JW stuff. It wasn't allowed.
My mom stayed at home, and didn't really bother the neighbours with JW stuff unless she was going door-to-door. And even then, we never worked in our own neighbourhood. She was still friendly with the ladies on the street, but she knew enough to not nag them with JW stuff if she wanted their company.
My brothers and I went to school. We had to ask EVERY DAY to be excused from morning exercises when "O Canada" was sung, and the Lord's Prayer was said. We had to take the flack from classmates (kids can be quite mean to you when you're different), we were also subjected to abuse by teachers - one in particular who would not allow me to be excused, and at the time it was expected by JWs that their children would either be excused, or sit quietly during the national anthem, and this teacher would pull me to my feet by the hair on the back of my neck. My parents never did anything to intervene, saying that it was 'persecution' and we should be glad about it.
We were also the ones who had to 'give a defense' at every single holiday and birthday that was observed, and why we couldn't participate in the activities.
I don't think JW parents, unless they were JW kids themselves, fully understand the burden they place on their children. As well, it's the children who have NO SAY when it comes to blood. JW parents refuse to allow their children to have blood transfusions; but what if the child wants to live even though it means "breaking God's laws"?? It's one thing for an adult to make that decision for themselves, but when I think about how my parents talked that they would rather have us die 'faithful to Jehovah' by not taking blood, it reminds me of the scripture where God chastises Israel: And they built the high places of the Ba'al in order burn their sons in the fire as whole burnt offerings to the Ba'al, something that I had not commanded or spoken of, and that had not come up into my heart. (Jeremiah 17:5)
It continues to bewilder me how JWs can put their kids through things like this and think it's a good thing to do. The fact that God stopped Abraham from sacrificing his son, Isaac, should be enough to tell them that it's not what a "real" God would want. The scripture in Jeremiah confirms it. Yet we see time and time again experiences of children being sacrificed over the blood issue.
unclebruce

I forgot, that I was a great artist at school, always praised with 'Outstanding' marks in High School.
I wanted to do Art at Senior school but my parents wouldn't let me, and forced me to take Needlework, as I would need to be able to sew after Armageddon to make clothes for all those resurrected ones!
My Art teacher took me aside and asked why the hell I was taking Needlework and not Art, and I simply explained that my parents wouldn't let me. He nearly had a hissy fit. But I remember the last thing he ever told me and I still appreciate it now: 'What if Picasso had done Needlework instead of Art? What would we have done without him?!' It still gives me a sense of appreciation now.
But three of my kids are brilliant artists. One even got a place at Uni in Art school but we were to poor to pay up and she did other things instead, but I've promised her as our finances have improved recently that if any of them ever want to go to Uni we will pay. She was a brilliant mathematician as well as are the other two artists.
These kids have had hopes for their future put in front of them now instead of taken away. There's a sparkle and excitement in their eyes. There's not many JW kids that I've met who have that sparkle and zing for the future.
Ordinary parents have the chance to give their children the gift of hopes and dreams, even if they have to struggle to make those hopes and dreams come true. But JW parents even have the opportunity of giving dreams to their children taken away from them. Instead they offer a fear inspiring future of death and destruction to come, and everlasting life under and evil, megalomanial, psycopathic God. That also is abuse.
But aren't you now one bad demonised aposta parent "with no natural affection" for your children? lol .. What a sick joke that religion is, reflecting the family values of Russell, Rutherford, Franz and co. There are few things better in life than seeing our children grow into happy well adjusted adults. so Gill, have you persued your artistic side now? If so get thee to an arts thread
Gill

Unclebruce - Have I pursued my artistic side yet? Only occassionally! I know I still have 'it'. We still keep pictures I have occassionally done. There's a brilliant one of where went on honeymoon and some others. But it also gives me a sad feeling for things lost.
However, in time I shall get back into the swing. It gives me a thrill to see the kids pictures though. It's almost as if I did them myself! I wish I could do maths like the kids however! I think they got that skill from their father.
It feel now, that it would be terrible not to let the children achieve everything they could possibly dream of. Every child should have that, even the JW children who are robbed of their dreams.
It just makes me very angry now when I see relatives who are JW, and the children of JWs that we know grow to 18 or so, doing so well at school, and then allowed to wither into less than they could have been. It's like suddenly chopping off someones legs. You can't do that physically to someone, so why should you be allowed to do it emotionally and educationally.
unclebruce

Unclebruce - Freedom! Yes, I forgot we can do absolutely anything now. It makes me smile everytime I buy a lottery ticket. Sounds daft, but I even buy them in the main supermarket in town not caring if any JW is about. I used to dare myself to do it and now, I couldn't give a flying fart!
Dreams and Freedom are the two most important things an ex JW can give their children, and gift themselves.
The average JW child is also incredibly superstitious and afraid of everything.
Thinking of the same young JW relative mentioned earlier, he told my older two children that he wanted a skateboard, but the one he wanted had a bull with a ring through its nose. He 'felt' he couldn't buy that because the ring through the bulls nose, he had been informed by his parents, might be symbolic of something Satanic and might influence other people to behave badly!
Who thinks in such a warped fashion????? No one in their right minds! Only a JW child could come up with such nonsense.
Isn't that also a form of abuse, instilling stupid, nonsensical fears into a child.
Sadly enough, we were invited to same JW relatives barbecue this summer. This young boy, 13 now, was constantly back for wine and beer and could have drank most of the adults under the table without a second thought. I have 3 boys from 14 to 21. The 14 year olds drank juice, even though we offered them beer if they were interested and the twenty one year old had one beer. The JW relative had 6 glasses of wine and 4 beers in the space of 3 hours.
His parents feel they cannot relax in the evenings without a bottle of wine between them, as they are so stressed and the same is true for other JW relatives who feel alcohol is their only release from their very stress filled life!
The stress of JW land on Children, and adults is oppressive and harmful. Children are brought up without a moment to relax and forget the WTBTS!
The Stress of that is incredibly abusive to a growing mind and body.
LOL .. when I was about 12 my neighbourhood mates and I made a soapbox go-cart. Scott said we should paint a Maltese cross on the back of the seat. So we did. When my dad saw it he nearly had a fit. Dad: That's a Nazi symbol! Me: No dad it's a maltese cross. Dad: It's from Babylon the Great .. we don't believe in the cross. Me: But we copied it from a picture of the Red Baron's plane. Dad: "I knew it was German!" So I took it off in case the neighbours thought something bad about the craziest people in the street
Gill

A Maltese Cross, Unclebruce! You badass!
Don't you just wonder what the ordinary folk must have thought of us when we were JW?!
The mind just boggles! But it makes you wonder how people tolerated our irrational behaviour! But the fact that your father was more afraid of the sign being from Babylon than from Nazi Germany, I think that says it all!
Oh the Craziness!!!

Non Sexual Child abuse.

Share this