transcript of a disfellowship appeal meeting -they can get you for anything

by jwfacts 38 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  mcsemike

  I think he showed courage to walk out and not take part in this jackass committee. The WT wants "loose conduct" to include disobedience because they can't get people to stay in line any other way. Apostasy charges can bring lawsuits. But "loose conduct" will start the rumors flying that it was a sexual offense, which they no doubt are happy about, since that will hurt someone leaving worse than the apostasy charge.

  It's disgusting that this Nazi cult has to stoop so low to keep people in line. I don't know how anyone is dumb enough to remain, unless it's to keep their family.

  The hypocrisy here is that many of the elders are sexual perverts themselves and truly have earned the charge of "loose conduct". What else can you call men who tolerate child abuse, or in many cases, do it themselves? Isn't it "loose conduct" to interrogate a young girl as to what she did sexually with a pedophile? I've hammered on this for years and won't stop. Men who have no training in psychology, and get their jollies from doing so, have no business having ANY meeting with child abuse victims, male or female, but especially female. How many elders view pornography or have impure thoughts while thinking about the child abuse cases they conducted? I don't trust any of those animals. You elders are pigs.

  The WT has now, beyond any doubt, become worse than the Pharisees it always trashes. They are the biggest hypocrites in the world. This cult should be outlawed in the entire world. I know of no country that was constructively "helped" by this group of lying Gestapo agents. Damn you all to hell.
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  Anitar

  You know, I'm starting to sense a pattern here. It all starts with gossip. One "friend" rats on another "friend." With all the backstabbing and mock trials going on, you would think they get off on destroying each other.

  It seems the decision is always already made for them to get rid of the "wrongdoer." Next step is they open with a lukewarm-half assed prayer. Did anyone ever tell them that not every word in the bible is a prayer? Any idiot can take a verse out of context and twist it to fit their argument.

  Then the elders lay the smackdown. DumDumDum! This is where I try not to laugh. They take themselves so seriously! Ohh, apostasy! Ohh, independent thought! AAKK!! Kill it before it spreads!

  They proceed to distract you with a lame comparison to a drug dealer or an alcoholic, circumvent their own rules as well as the bible's, toss common sense and logic happily out the window, then finish off by throwing insults cleverly disguised as "spiritual guidance" until someone gets pissed off and walks away. I'm temped to say that they might as well get a monkey to conduct this meeting, but I don't want to insult the monkeys.

  Oh, by the way, haven't you heard? The elders know what you're thinking. It's all part of their package-deal communication with God.

  And then we come to pornography

  Please forgive me, I just couldn't resist...

  "Brother NoName, you have been charged with renting a copy of Pootie Tang from Blockbuster seven years ago. We have this on good authority from Jehovah that you took said video back to your home where you proceeded to abandon the use of your God given female spouse and engage in self abuse, or pummel yourself! How do you plead!?"

  "Ah, ElderNoBrain, how do you know all that?"

  "Oh, it's quite simple really. At the moment you were baptized, you were secretly drugged and while you were asleep we surgically implanted a GPS tracking device in your penis. This has a direct link to Jehovah, and of course, he only shares this link with us. Now, should you be proven guilty of these charges, which of course you already have, you will be faced with disfellowshipment. Don't worry, that's a real word. We totally didn't make that up."

  "Than how come it's not in any dictionaries?"

  "Because we haven't told the worldly people how to spell it. As I was saying, you are guilty of masturbation, which is one of the most hideous sex practices that Satan ever invented to lure honest hearted ones away from the truth. This vile and depraved practice- -"

  "Um, ElderNoBrain, what's that under your foot?"

  "What!? Pay no attention to the underage girl under the table!"

  (readjusts himself) "As I was saying, based on this charge, you have been deemed spiritually weak and therefore must be expelled from the organization and we are to have no further contact with you, except once. Before Armageddon comes, please do us the favor of leaving your house in our name as I'm sure you'll be pre-occupied with the crows pecking away at your rotting carcass. It would really save us the trouble as most of us will be too busy with bone raking duty! Take care now!"

  Have I made my point?

  Anitar
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  JWdaughter

  I was reading thin and reflected that if sending people out of the congregation happened in the Biblical way it would be so much more fair. Less false, stupid, inane, charges. People would associate or not based on actual knowledge of what you actually did. With witnesses! This star/kangaroo court business is for the birds. Not eating with a person that one finds to be personally morally reprehensible is a normal thing to do-natural. Not speaking, looking at or eating with a loved family member or friend/associate whose sins are vague/unknown is impossibly stupid. Why did we agree to that lifestyle? I just don't understand myself sometimes.
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  mcsemike

  Anitar, can I add one thing?

  Elder: "Oh, and may Jehovah's rich blessings be with you."

  DF'd person: "Blank you."

  Elder: "See, more "loose conduct, unclean speech, and a rotten saying. Why don't you go to Hell?"

  DF'd person: "No, thank you. I just left Hell. Now I'm free."
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  silversurfer1

  Once you've been before a committee you have a paper trail on your mistakes for life. Even if you move to another congregation. As a Elder/Secretary & S.O. I saw plenty of Judicial files on people that went back 30 to 40 years on some members. I asked a C.O. if I could destroy some of these files (some of these people where dead) and he told me I could not because we never know when these files may prove useful in other cases. Blew me away. I even sat in a Edlers meeting in which we were recommending a brother for a MS. The C.O. held back his recommendation because he had a file on this brothers wife from a few years earlier in which during a shepherding call she stated she had had problems with demons once. FILES ON S. CALLS USED AGAINST YOU YEARS LATER!!!!!!!! COME ON!!! These guys don't imitate the Jesus and or Jehovah I see portrayed in the Bible. They seem to fit the pattern of the Pharasee's and the apostate kings of Israel.
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  Stealth453

  Kind of makes me want to drop a load of bum-coffee in my daks.

  Sociopaths. That's all they are.
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  LittleToe

  Reading that made me feel sick to my stomach. These are not loving shepherds in any sense of the word!!!
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  mcsemike

  All the demons I know are in New York.
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  LoverOfTruth

  If you "Dis" the Elders, you have committed the unforgivable sin. Most JWs don't know this until it happens.