I HAVE TO KNOW WHAT DOES duh stand for?

inlove

I am sick, sad, angry and in despair! I thought I had married and reasonable man, now only to find him to say this

"as mentioned in last nights meeting, keep knocking, keep searching for it (the truth.
Little-by-little, Jehovah will reveal it to those with the right heart
condition at the proper time.as mentioned in
I have no need nor the desire tolook anywhere else for the truth or consider any other view points, be it letters from people that "claim" to be witnesses or from web sites and the
like."

Please tell me there is any hope! Is there anyone out there who has ever said these words before and meant them, that is now come to see the TRUTH?

PopeOfEruke

Sure there is hope.....

Remember what Confucious said "When the student is ready, the teacher will come". Means people will only see the truth when they are ready to and not before. And it seems there is not much anyone can do to force the timetable along.

It's odd isn't it!!

Just be patient and loving, it's all you can do I think....

Pope

Confucious also said "Rape not possible! Woman with dress over head run faster than man with trousers around ankles".

return visitor

I have said them, I have even chalenged people at the door that if they could prove the society wrong then I would become what they were. I sincerly thought I had the truth. That all changed when I found out that the org. was in bed with the UN. THEY made me question things. THEY started me wondering if it really was the truth. THEY made me think - if they are doing this behind my back, then what else. That's when I started having doubts. I found a letter on the UN website (not some "apostate" site) wrote a letter to the society to get answers and got none that's when I decided this is not God's organization so I started to look at things anew, without blinders. If something bothered me I researched outside the org. literature. I was a witness for 26 years, (I still am in fact, just trying to fade out so as not to loose my family). So I think there is hope it may take a while but we all have doubts even your husband, be patient.

RV

Abandoned

(((inlove)))

Take heart. The best way to help your husband is to give him his freedom to consider his doubts on his own. If he feels pushed, he'll think it's persecution or you're working with satan and all that crap.

Sparkplug

((inlove)) say there! Hi, I am Decki. I must say that I think that is a programmed response that most of us said at one time or another. We actually were told that in an arrogant way about 10 times a week. (At least I recall it being worked in there one way or another) So kind of like a catch phrase of the day, you know, 'oh snap', 'wow' where is the beef? etc, we tend to repeat what we hear. It starts to sound normal to the rational person.

I'm out an I know I said that a gazillion times. Of course I had to be thrown out, but really, we all could go back at most any time. So there is hope and people do wake up and start putting their own words in their own mouths.

Decki

inlove

Thanks for the words of encouragement. Really,

BUT I HAVE TO KNOW WHAT DOES duh mean?

Sparkplug

Thanks for the words of encouragement. Really,
BUT I HAVE TO KNOW WHAT DOES duh mean?

I guess I don't understand what you are asking then.

gordon d

Hi InLove. Welcome to the board

We had a topic that led to this subject as part of the discussion.. it's gotten pretty lengthy but there may be something of interest to you towards the later posts....

You may want to take a Tylenol before reading the whole thing!

here's the link:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/124057/1.ashx

Here also is a quote from that thread.... My answering another poster's question.

So on what, exactly do you base your "Pro-God" belief system? You haven't exactly explained your side of the argument during the course of this thread, even though you've required atheists to explain the basis for their belief system. Care to try? If it isn't anything to do with the "god" of the bible / New Testament, how do you regard yourself as a Christian? (I've been reviewing your posting history... )

It's not easy for me to communicate here, in writing... but if you really want to know, I'll give it a try... that's only fair.

I have some reservations about the Bible as we know it today. A history of it's origin and it's preservation cause more confusion than confirmation. I also do not believe that anything that we might generally consider as religion is a fundamental part of the intimate relationship that we can have with another being. Just as going through the ceremony of marriage does not automatically make you any "closer" to your spouse. However, I do believe that humans posses the abilty to "bond" with others on a level that science cannot explain. I feel that religions have been guilty of portraying an impression of God that is far removed from his true nature. I also believe that God has allowed this (and human suffering) for a reason and that he will not allow the current situation to last forever. But that is another topic, entirely.

I do believe in the biblical and historical accounts of Jesus.... also, that he was born into human form and ultimately acted as a sacrifice for the foundation of a new covenant between God and mankind. As ridiculous and barbaric as this originally sounded to me, the more searching that I did, the more "sense" that it made..... not to Western or even Eastern thinking but in equilibrium, at a higher level. I do believe that Christ is an entirely seperate entity than the one that "sent" him and has his own will and own thoughts. These views I can only support as being attained through spiritual enlightenment.... even an ability to discern man-made thoughts from God-inspired ones. I realize that this sounds like a form a mental illness but it does not manifest any of the traits of such a malidy (apart from the possibility of a transfixed delusionalism that has no accompanying psychoses... practically an unheard of condition) I do not believe that it is the place of anyone who has gained enlightenment to arbitrarily share knowledge with someone that is not given their own knowledge from spiritual powers. For example, translating of an understanding of a "true" Biblical parable to someone who has no real desire for the knowledge or no love for the will of the one who created it.

I am not saying that I've been given mystical powers? I am saying that an unexplainable change occured during my search for God. This change resulted to an immediate opening of my eyes to spiritual matters that had escaped me (no matter how much I had meditated on them in the past). Some people may refer to this as being born again, seeing the light, or becoming one with God. It's impossible to explain, there simply are no words for it. I would have NEVER believed it as something from God, at any point in my life... until it happened. The people that say one becomes a "new creature" are right..... just ask those that knew me before and after. It is not the same as the transformation of an achoholic in recovery, or a psych patient experiencing a breakthrough.... it is a complete changing of a persons very being. I fully realize that no one who has yet to experience this for themselves would ever understand it... but at the moment that it happens, you completely understand, and you have a peace that overwhelms you.

I hope this helps! You're welcome to PM me if you want to talk.

P.S. WELCOME BACK SPARKY!!!!!!!!!

gordon d

Ooopps.... I guess I misread your question.... please dis-regard the above post

Sparkplug

Actually Gordon, that caught me up a little on I guess other stuff. Very interesting perspective. almost like what Lil Toe was writing of. I may be off and I mena no insult to either one of you on that. It just looks like you both have reached a spiritual level of enlightenment. An awareness that perhaps is not open to someone such as myself yet. (may never be)

Anyhow, Glad to be back. Just resting still. The thing that makes me most sleepy is typing. lol. I go to post and I go right to sleep.

I HAVE TO KNOW WHAT DOES duh stand for?

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