Nicotine gum?

by Scully 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • kid-A
    kid-A

    Hee hee....I have this image of Scully chomping on Nicorette whilst slugging back some Cafe Americanos from Starbucks!! LOL...

    The problem with the gum (and especially since they have made this OTC) is that often times chain smokers will combine cigarettes with the gum! A frightening thought indeed, yet I know at least 5 smokers that regularly do this, with no intention of quitting, simply getting a partial fix in between smokes! LOL.

    Having said that, nicotine in and of itself does have beneficial effects. It is a protective factor in Parkinsons disease because it tends to sensitize the dopamine system in the substantia nigra and globus pallidus, which suffer dopamine degradation during Parkinsons.

    There is some evidence that neuroleptically medicated schizophrenics smoke to alleviate the cognitive and motor impairments related to antipsychotic meds. Whatever the case, those of us in the field are finding that we can modulate how nicotine is motivationally perceived simply by manipulating certain brain receptor systems. For example, blocking dopamine strongly increases nicotine's rewarding and addictive properties. Blocking alpha-7 nicotinic receptors can switch nicotine from a reward signal to an aversive signal. Bottom line, within a few years, we will be able to control nicotine's psychological and motivational properties with simple pharmacological treatments that dont "substitute" for nicotine, which overall, has proven to be as bad a treatment option, as 'methadone'.

  • Nosferatu
    Nosferatu
    I would say the best thing about his book is he gets you to hate smoking by the end of it including all forms of nicotine.

    That's how I quit smoking! Allen Carr rules!

    Nicotine gum tastes like ass. I can't see anybody wanting to chew on that shit for any extended period of time.

    BTW, is there a WT rule that outlaws ALL smoking? What about herbal cigarettes (and no, I don't mean marijuana)

  • ballistic
    ballistic
    Nicotine gum tastes like ass.

    Those herbal cigs stink as well. Have you ever been round someone smoking them?

  • Gregor
    Gregor

    Nosferatu, How do you know what ass tastes like?

  • RunningMan
    RunningMan
    Keep yourself and your hands busy in those moments when you would normally reach for a cigarette.

    The society recommends finding some other long, cylindrical item with which to habitually occupy your hands? Hmmm.

  • Nosferatu
    Nosferatu
    Those herbal cigs stink as well. Have you ever been round someone smoking them?

    Better yet, I've smoked them. Tastes like burning cloves and oregano. Smells like marijuana.

    Nosferatu, How do you know what ass tastes like?

    Let's just say I went down on a woman who wasn't very clean.

  • blondie
    blondie

    QFR re nontobacco cigarettes:

    *** w84 6/15 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***

    · Would it be wrong to smoke nontobacco cigarettes as an aid in overcoming tobacco addiction?

    There are a number of reasons why this should be avoided by persons who want to apply Scriptural counsel and be members of the Christian congregation.

    Many individuals who were addicted to smoking, and particularly to the drug nicotine in tobacco, have tried to break the habit. One way has been by substitution, smoking cigarettes made from other vegetable matter lacking nicotine. This might seem quite desirable for this reason: The smoker avoids nicotine, yet the strains of breaking a long-standing habit may seem less severe because he can still hold and smoke something, a nontobacco cigarette.

    To appreciate why this is not for Christians, reflect on some reasons why Jehovah’s Witnesses do not smoke.

    For one thing, the widespread habit of smoking tobacco—in cigarettes, pipes or cigars—conflicts with what the apostle Paul wrote to the Corinthian congregation: "Dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that pollutes either body or spirit." (2 Corinthians 7:1, TheTwentiethCenturyNewTestament) Just before those words, Paul had spoken about religious activities that amounted to "touching the unclean thing." (2 Corinthians 6:17) Then he expanded matters with his comment in 2 Corinthians 7:1, which would apply to any activity that would pollute the Christian morally, spiritually or physically. The principle certainly is applicable to the relatively modern practice of using tobacco.

    Observing tobacco users close up, you probably have seen their stained fingers and teeth, and likely you know of the blackened, polluted state of smokers’ lungs. Their habit is unclean and seriously endangers their health and life. But is the harm solely because they smoke tobacco? Hardly. Even if someone regularly smoked cigarettes made from another plant—be it marijuana, lettuce, corn or something else—inhaling smoke day after day is unnatural. Do you not agree that inhaling any smoke regularly would pollute the lungs and likely could imperil one’s health? So whether the smoke be from tobacco, marijuana, or some sort of nicotineless cigarettes, smoking simply is inappropriate for people who want to live in accord with the counsel at 2 Corinthians 7:1.—Compare Romans 12:1.

    Nor can a person be said to be showing neighbor love to his family and associates when he forces them to inhale his smoke, even if that be from something other than tobacco.—Mark 12:31.

    Furthermore, smoking tobacco is so prevalent that if observers see an individual smoking some sort of cigarette, cigar or pipe, they would hardly think themselves presumptuous in assuming that it was tobacco. So even if someone restricted himself to nicotineless cigarettes, observers might well be stumbled or conclude that Jehovah’s Witnesses are not consistent in avoiding the polluting, health-damaging tobacco habit.—Luke 17:1, 2.

    Many who are now clean, healthy Christian servants of Jehovah have successfully overcome the tobacco habit without switching to some other type of smoking. Helpful comments about this are to be found in the article "Those Weaknesses Can Be Overcome" in TheWatchtower of October 15, 1982.

  • Nosferatu
    Nosferatu

    Nor can a person be said to be showing neighbor love to his family and associates when he forces them to inhale his smoke, even if that be from something other than tobacco

    You know what's dumb? By this, someone could be DFed for burning a pork chop or having a campfire.

  • blondie
    blondie

    And what about forcing people to inhale our farts!

    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=farts&hl=en

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    I'm curious whether there have been any JWs who tried this to get the same effects from nicotine without actually smoking? Would the elders be able to DF a person for it? Would the WTS ban all forms of chewing gum on the off chance that someone might decide to chew nicotine gum for its "therapeutic" effects?

    I'm thinking that people who smoke dont want to chew gum. They smoke to occupy time, every ten minutes or every hour they take a break and change their routine by lighting up, and getting away for 7 or 10 minutes,.It breaks up the monotiny of the day. What I'm saying along with being a drug, there's a behavioral activity associated with having a cigarette break. Plus smoking is cooler than chewing gum. You can smoke and chew gum and be really cool. At least thats how it starts for some people, young people smoke to be cool or belong,

    Its been said before why doesnt the society ban fat people and eating at Mcdonalds. I dont think they are looking for any more bans at this time. If they could find a way to increase recruitment then maybe they could come up with a new prohibition to thin the flock and make things interesting.

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