My Haunted Office

by Warlock 65 Replies latest jw experiences

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  detective

  I think "naysayers" are useful. Having people offer more "everyday" explanations can sometimes help shed light on these mysteries. Personally, I appreciate it when people don't just say, "yes, you've seen aliens" when I describe a light in the sky I can't explain. I think we've all had things we've wanted to believe, sometimes to the point of self-deception (she loves me, I don't look fat in these jeans, I'm not balding). Isn't it better to have people who bring ideas that help us think all sides of the issue through? Maybe she loves you. Maybe there are aliens wisking you away in the middle of the night for testing- who knows!? Maybe you aren't losing your hair. I'm sure you did see those things- but that doesn't mean I believe ghosts are necessarily behind it.

  Wanting to believe something to the point that you can't really bear to hear another side of it- doesn't that sound a bit familiar? Diversity is good.
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  delilah

  I believe you too, Warlock, as I've experienced many things myself. My house has "something" in it as well, but I have never felt a coldness. I have felt that coldness, however, in two different antiques shops, and I had to get out real fast. I felt as though I was suffocating. Funny thing, my husband felt the exact same way.

  The "activity" in my house, comes and goes, and I've been trying to keep track of when the busy seasons are, lol. It's been quiet for some time now, thank goodness, and even when there is activity, I never feel threatened, or scared. If I did, or if the "something" became violent, I'd move my family out in a hell of a hurry.

  I'm very skeptical, and I try to rationalize every situation before admitting that it is something else....sometimes there are things that just cannot be explained away.

  I did speak to a Native Indian woman about it, and she told me to make an offering, say, like some cigarettes, or some herbs, left on a window sill, or when making a meal, take an extra plate, with food on it. Speak out loud, and tell the spirits that it is for them, as a peace offering, and to take it, then leave, never to return.

  Well, in all honesty, I never did it, as I thought it a wee bit strange....
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  BlackSwan of Memphis

  Ok, I believe you. I do, because we just went through some very interesting things that simply do not have an explanation.

  Mind you, I was the one saying, "There IS an explanation, we're just not seeing it."

  I tried everything I could think of to debunk them. While two of the events in question have possible, but extremely unlikely explanations, one has zero.

  So, I fwiw, believe you.

  If it comes back, leave it some chocolate and jewerly, it sounds like a girl
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  Warlock

  While two of the events in question have possible, but extremely unlikely explanations, one has zero.

  Which ones? I may be able to add some details.

  Warlock
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  BlackSwan of Memphis

  warlock, sorry, my daughter sorta took over the computer for awhile to play at nickelodeon. Haha.

  Ok, I don't think I worded my post well. I meant that out of all the experienes We had, two had possibly but unlikely explanations, but one had none.

  Your experience?

  Well, I see exactly where you're coming from. You look at a bunch of things happening within a certain time frame, you do what you can to debunk and come up with nothing that makes a lot of sense.

  psssst I give you a lot of credit for posting your experience here. It isn't easy.
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  Warlock

  psssst I give you a lot of credit for posting your experience here. It isn't easy

  Yeah, I thought about it for a while. I told a few people in Gabbly the story and they told me I should post it. There are some other things I told them that I didn't include, but this is the gist of the story.

  You know, BSM, since I didn't imagine these things, and I'm not making it up, I figured I might as well take the skeptical comments along with the others. It all happened and more.

  What more can I say?

  Thanks for your comments.

  Warlock
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  SWALKER

  I can simultaneously believe an individual "believes" they had such and such experience that within their own minds, was real. That does not make it real. Whats more, I can accept how a person "perceived" a particular sensory experience while simultaneously considering alternative, more empirical explanations for why they perceived what they did....

  See, here we go...someone thinking it's all in "the mind." How can it be all in a person's mind when 5 people all see the same thing at once????????????

  > I think its more an issue of those claiming supernatural experiences desperately wanting to believe that there IS a supernatural world, and by extension, god. Regardless, as Six rightly pointed out, even if tangible proof for supernatural phenomena was ever presented, it would in no way be evidence for some "god-like" creature existing in the universe.

  I for one don't DESPERATELY want to believe in the supernatural....I've tried very hard to forget the things that happened that I couldn't explain...I felt that one day science may answer these questions for us as to what is happening. Then 2 years ago I had an unsettling experience. I slapped myself in the face several times, walked around, made a phone call all to be sure that I was not dreaming. I wasn't and what I saw was very real. That episode made me re-evaluate my belief system. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is a spiritual/supernatural world. What I don't know is what it is comprised of....

  If I'm not wholly sane, then neither is most of my graduating class of 300 students including teachers! That's a lot of INSANE people running around....

  Swalker
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  mzliz

  Hi Warlock,

  I believe you.i just started experiencing things of that nature about a year ago in a different house.

  After months of odd activity, i mentioned it to my landlord in a very offhand way, asking if others had reported anything about the house. She told me one other person had, a girl my age with the same name. She freaked and moved out, I got

  a medium in and help release what was in there. The activity stopped afterwards. By the way My BF is/was/is the

  biggest sceptic about this stuff and experienced it all with me and going through ALL of the "logical"explanatons came to the same conclusion. good luck with that!
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  itsallgoodnow

  I know I've probably been one of the naysayers that came out on lots of these threads and say there's another explanation. and sometimes that's true.

  Something very coincidental happened to me this week. I can't give details because my jw family, if they are paying attention, would know it's me. but still, it was a weird coincidence, or maybe it did have a natural explanation, probably did, that's what I'm telling myself.

  But that coincidence, somehow sparked something in my memory that happened years and years ago. I was out in service, and someone I had never met before, a family member of an RV of mine, took one look at me, seemed to look like she was getting sick and put her hands on her forehead like she had a really bad spell of a headache, and then blurted out a street name (one that I had lived on) from another city I lived in.

  How did I block that from my memory all these years? It makes me wonder if maybe there are psychics that are real, I'm sure there are many that are just making stuff up, and maybe just maybe some are for real.

  I still don't believe in god or anything, and probably never will, but hell, I can't claim to be an ultra-skeptic anymore. Not with that memory rearing its ugly head!

  So I won't naysay much of anything anymore. I think it's important to look for a natural explanation to all of this, someone playing a prank, or being in a sleep state where you think you are awake and experiencing something, but maybe there is something out there? I don't know.
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  hindweb

  jeepers creepers! scered the hell outta me!

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