Please read this email.....(Long)

by megsmomma 21 Replies latest jw friends

  • megsmomma
    megsmomma

    The top part is what I wrote to my step-dad in response to his e-mail below. I don't have any hopes of this making a difference in my family, but I do want to hear some opinions on things he said and the way he contradicts himself . The brainwashing goes deep.

    Thank you for the e-mail. If you really love me, try to understand where I am coming from and take a look at this...it is NOT anything written to be against JW's....It is an encyclopedia.Then please answer the questions of why it is against God to take blood,(do you know the Society allows fractions of blood....all the ingredients in blood, but only fractions of it...where in the Bible does it say that?) why it is loving to disfellowship, and why it is ok for God's one and only true religion to change the time of the end,and what does the society teach will happen to the majority of human kind when Armegedon comes. Then, get back to me....Please, just answer my 4 questions.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_regarding_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses

    I have also copied family in on this and would like to note that many of the people I have copied in here realize I have really researched the Bible and are happy I am free from a religion that has torn my family apart.

    Lyndi, I didn’t know if our call got dropped or you hung up on me.I tried calling back.I would like to preference this correspondence with the fact that I, your mother, Kimberly, Ryan and Tamra love you very much; and that we all respect you and your rights and I encourage you to explore and examine various religious theories and groups to find the truth for you.Seemingly it appears by several of the individuals copied on this correspondence that when the conversation turns to religion, all you want to convey is fault, fallacies or imperfection that you have discovered with the Witnesses. A quick little story here; when your mother starting studying in Rock Creek, it became somewhat obvious to me that most of her friends and relatives where glad to see her looking into religion.However, when they discovered she was studying with a JW and seeking the truth on her own, they became adamantly, yes adamantly opposed.Even though they themselves had very little, if any religious knowledge, they were making comments like, “oh they don’t believe in God” , “they don’t believe in Jesus” or “they won’t seek medical help even if one of their kids were dying”;so here I would run to Joy and tell her these ignorant comments that were made…so after the last Christmas that Ryan and I had sitting around the Christmas tree in Rock Creek by ourselves wishing each other merry Christmas, (I didn’t want to give up on Christmas, I always did and still do enjoy Christmas music and the excitement in the air this time of year) I started not only listening to your mother but checking some of the facts myself.The funny thing is that those friends and relatives would not have any problem at all if Joy were looking into one of the mainstream religions, Lutheran, Baptist, Catholicism…(mainstream, huh, crowded road leading off into destruction) however it was like, please anything BUT THE JW’s.The fact that so many misinformed people were so adamantly opposed to the JWs that I had no choice than to start checking it out for myself. I still don’t agree with everything the Witnesses do, however I believe in the Witnesses.Each day, everyone of us is that much further removed from perfection, so the Witnesses still have human imperfection that will at times come into play. Now I would like to address your mother’s strong religious convictions.Your mother took a vow, an oath, one that I have completely procrastinated on for selfish reasons so that I would not have to take a certain stance that I may not always agree with.When Tamra was lying in ICU in Flagstaff several hours after her first accident the obvious question of a blood transfusion came up.I knew in my heart that she should not take any blood…however would I hold to that conviction to save her life?I was fortunate that Tamra regained consciousness and made that decision on her own.I knew without a doubt that Joy would hold true to her conviction and fight for Tamra’s right not to receive blood.Once Tamra made that decision I too would fight for her rights and did.I would have rather given my life for Tamra that day rather than make that decision for her. In closing I would like you to know that as a parent disappoint comes with the territory.I am sure that your mother is disappointed in me for not being baptized and taking a more positive role in the spiritual leadership in raising our children. We respect your right to explore and examine the various avenues you may want to take in leading your family spiritually; however, this does not mean that we put aside our convictions. We would hope and pray that all of our children come back into Jehovah’s arms eventually.When judgment day comes for me…and Jehovah tells me I pinned my tail to the right and true believers I will hope all my loved ones will have also made the right spiritual decisions.If he tells me I should have been a Baptist, I will tell him I would have taken a 1,000 to 1 odds against that. Again, we may not believe in everything you believe in, but we believe in you.You want to find the right religion for you, have at it…however you need to lay off with your negative rant against the JWs. Love ya. Dad


  • lonelysheep
    lonelysheep

    Meg, his email addy is in the post. You may want to edit that out.

  • megsmomma
    megsmomma

    How do I edit it?

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    put your mouse over the thread subject and a little box will appear that gives you the options.

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free
    however you need to lay off with your negative rant against the JWs.

    I would answer this with:

    "I'll be more than happy to end my rant against the Watchtower when the Watchtower ends its rant against other religions, governments, education, the media, the medical profession, entertainment, and essentially everything they don't control. If they have the right to rant, then so do I. Neither the Watchtower or you will take away my freedom of speech. If JWs have the right to express their beliefs worldwide, then I have an equal right to express my disbelief. You don't have to like it, but you must accept it. You have no choice."

    W

  • megsmomma
    megsmomma

    Thanks...I got it edited. Finally free.....I will definitely use that line of reason...Brilliant response!!

  • TopHat
    TopHat

    JW's think they are the ones who can rant about other religions BUT don't rant about theirsthank you

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free

    I should have added, my methods might make my point, but are virtually useless if you are trying to mend a relationship.

    W

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    Interesting letter - overall he seemed to be moderately supportive of you 'looking for religion that suits you'. His being unbaptised may allow him to assess things in that manner - since he cannot be DF'd for such opines.

    I found the final statement interesting;

    Again, we may not believe in everything you believe in, but we believe in you.You want to find the right religion for you, have at it…however you need to lay off with your negative rant against the JWs. Love ya. Dad

    I would perry and thrust with examples from the WT and Awake that point up the society's propensity to engage in 'negative rant' continuously against other religions, and ask why they are allowed to state what they see wrong with them, but you are not allowed the same.

    Thanx for posting.

    Jeff

    Edited to state; I did not see the other similar comments before I hit the submit button. Seems like everyone keyed on the same point.

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    Well, I don't know much about this 'rant' of yours, but I know what it's like talking to JWs.

    The important thing to remember is that a JW is never going to respect the opinion of others. They will never really ever understand those that disagree with them. They will always feel superior when they believe what the WTS teaches. That means they will allways think that they alone have all the answers, they alone are the only ones who look at the 'big picture' and they alone have exposed the lies of this world and have cleared the pathway to truth.

    I think it is very simple to understand this mode of thinking, because it is the dominate mindset of the majority of human beings. Each individual believing that their personal experience and knowledge is superior to that of their fellow mans. The important thing to remember about JWs is that not only is this attitude prevalent, but it is strongly encouraged for the members to act in this way. They are trained on how to feel, act, and process all the information in the world in a way that makes the JW religion seem to be on top. It is biased and irrational, but who ever said it was supposed to be?

    I'm of the opinion that the only way to break through to a JW and get them to realize that you actually may have a point
    rather than just seeing you as an 'angry person' is to call them out on their own claims, using their own literature. Calling out many of the lies they have stated about their past can be an effective tool

    Unless the brain sucking Watchtower force is shown to be nothing more than a limp noodle (by using it's own publications against them) I think it can be quite problematic to try and discuss anything with active JWs.

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