Is it true that it takes 30 minutes to ..........

5go

take away a JW kid when they need blood because that seems to long now ?

Any former HLC elder's here that can answer that ?

nicolaou

Not quite sure what you're asking here 5go. Care to rephrase your question?

MsMcDucket

5go are you asking about how long it takes to get a court order to give a child blood or for the court to take custody of the child to give it blood?

Is that what you're asking?

5go

yep after reading several of the recent threads I think it should almost be imeaditae (sic) .

crazyblondeb

The 2 different instances that I was involved with took 5 minutes, once doctor and hospital's lawyer contacted the judge. Each hospital has their own protocol for this type of action.

shelley

They can issue a temporary court order there and then, which lasts until the parents go to court as far as i remember with our case, but then again i've blanked most of it out as i can't bear to remember it.

diamondblue1974

Yes it would depend on the geography but technically in the UK the hospitals can obtain court orders very quickly should they believe it to be in the childs best interests.

The HLC are also aware of how quickly the hospital can respond to such occasions and will normally advise accordingly.

In a local case near to me a dub friend of mine has a son with leukaemia and who rushed into hospital needing emergency transfusion given his leukaemic count; of course the blood issue was raised but the HLC advised the parents that they could refuse transfusion but the hospital would likely succeed in making the little one a ward of court. By the time the hospital had a court order their son would likely be dead and so it was better to provide consent now and leave treatment to the hospitals discretion - at least this way he could stand a chance of survival.

In my view and as much as this goes against the grain, I think this advice was both pragmatic and sensitive to the issues at stake; on a more cynical level however I think its the WTS way of indirectly watering down their non blood stance - damage limitation in other words.

DB74

jgnat

Here's some more information on how fast a person can die from loss of blood.

http://www.lazette.net/Vision/Issue36/writblood.htm

hubert

but the hospital would likely succeed in making the little one a ward of court.

I often wondered if this happens where the child is made a ward of the court, do the parents lose custody of the child, or is this only a temporary thing, just for the blood issue alone?

Hubert

5go

Pretty sure it's temp.Unless they can prove some other abuse is going on. Atleast in the USA.