What is the best thing to bring out in a letter of DA ?

by 5go 21 Replies latest jw friends

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    "There must be fifty ways to leave your lover
    Fifty ways to leave your lover

    You just slip out the back
    Jack
    Make a new plan
    Stan
    You don't need to be coy
    Roy
    Just get yourself free
    Hop on the bus
    Gus
    You don't need to discuss much
    Just drop off the key
    Lee
    And get yourself free

    You just slip out the back
    Jack"

    According to Paul Simon

    More seriously, how about " I no longer wish to be known as one of Jehovah's Witness", nothing more will be read anyway.

    Personally, I don't see the point. Let them come after me and I will tie up as much of their time as I can.

  • diamondblue1974
    diamondblue1974
    On the other hand, warning someone to get the fuck out of your life, stop harassing you, and to stop trespassing on your property - OR ELSE - is NOT "playing their game" by even the wildest stretch of the imagination, and only a complete idiot would think otherwise.

    If they were harassing or trespassing then a cease and desist letter would suffice as opposed to a letter formulated from the twisted cults own procedural requirements. To play along with their procedure is to play their game and unless there is good reason to do so, I would avoid it.

    The only power they can have over you is that which you let them have. An idiot I am not.

    Gary

  • BlackSwan of Memphis
    BlackSwan of Memphis

    If you da, you are making it clear that you are leaving willingly. It sounds like you are still living with your folks. Hm, that makes for not very happy living. Coming clean to her will likely result in living conditions that are not much happier. Living a lie is stressful though.

    Here's a thought:

    Victor Frankl, Holocaust survivor (he's deceased now). While I realize that I might be walking a line here, I just want to point out that no one can take away your freedom of thought, freedom to believe what you want to believe.

    Here is a quote I got from this link: http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/frankl/frankl.html

    Even in the degradation and abject misery of a concentration camp, Frankl was able to exercise the most important freedom of all - the freedom to determine one's own attitude and spiritual well-being. No sadistic Nazi SS guard was able to take that away from him or control the inner-life of Frankl's soul. One of the ways he found the strength to fight to stay alive and not lose hope was to think of his wife. Frankl clearly saw that it was those who had nothing to live for who died quickest in the concentration camp.

    I am thinking about how you are living with your family still and that living with people, a mother, who believes with all her heart you are going to die at the Big A which, btw is imminent , can be a tad stressful. Right now, she has hope, once you do this, that hope is pretty much gone. It would be cool if you could find a way to deal with the stress of the situation til you're out of the house, perhaps meditation or yoga.

    You sound pretty positive about the da thing sooo, to da or not to da that is the question:

    If they df you because you come clean with your mom, you don't really know how people can spin it. Ya know make it sound like you are a harlot . Da'ing gives you the oppurtunity to express Why You are Leaving of your own free will and why you are not returning. If you intend on just coming clean to your mom, she'll know anyway and it's not like it'll be a big secret.

    That means let it come from your heart. Why are you leaving? What bothers you the most? What contradictions or inconsistencies eat at you the most? Those are the things you include in your da letter.

    Is it playing their game? Sure, but it also provides you a way to beat them at their own game by enlightening others who have doubts but could use the encouragement that they aren't the only ones who want out.

    Good luck with everything!

  • 5go
    5go

    I am trying to stay but if they pull the same crap as last time I want to canvas the parking lot with my letter of DA . So they know I left because of what their doing not what I'm doing.

    The thing they did last time is spread the idea I'm gay to the congregation. I'm not though I can see why it works I'm not normal a doctor told me, I might have a slightly intersexed condition.

    <------ I told the doctor I never would of thought of that.( see pic )

  • BlackSwan of Memphis
    BlackSwan of Memphis
    I am trying to stay but if they pull the same crap as last time I want to canvas the parking lot with my letter of DA . So they know I left because of what their doing not what I'm doing.

    Wow, you're braver then I am, but I can understand where it's coming from!!!

    The thing they did last time is spread the idea I'm gay to the congregation. I'm not though I can see why it works I'm not normal a doctor told me, I might have a slightly intersexed condition.

    I can't beleive this doesn't bother your mom! They took a medical condition and used it to their advantage against you. Jerks. Besides, what ever personal information, be it sexual id, medical conditions etc, is just that, personal. And no one has the right to take any personal information and make it public.

  • Honesty
    Honesty
    What is the best thing to bring out in a letter of DA ?

    Dear B.O.E.:

    The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses services are no longer needed as my spiritual advisors.

  • 5go
    5go
    I can't beleive this doesn't bother your mom! They took a medical condition and used it to their advantage against you. Jerks. Besides, what ever personal information, be it sexual id, medical conditions etc, is just that, personal. And no one has the right to take any personal information and make it public.

    Actually I may have blown this one a little out of proportion only a couple of brother have made insinuations they were talking about homosexuals from the platform while looking strait at me. My mom hasn't caught on, but the fact they haven't used me for prayer or anything no attempt to try to get me to go in field service or consel me useless my mom gets them to do it tells me something is being said behind my back and I think it's that. Besides my field service which I only recently stop counting time. They don't have anything on me.

    Oh by the way no one but me and my doctor know about my condition by the way. As far any one else is concern I'm an ugly pretty boy.

  • PrimateDave
    PrimateDave

    I agree with Blues. Basically, "I don't want to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses." No arguments. No discussions.

    I don't quite get it when others say that a DA letter, or just saying the above statement to an elder, is somehow playing by "their" rules. Playing by "their" rules means going to meetings, preaching door-to-door, reaching out for "privileges", etc.

    As for my family, I told them what I did. Then, when they expressed their surprise and confusion, I once again refused to discuss or argue. To discuss or argue is to play by "their" rules and implies that you might be willing to compromise and change your mind.

    I did give them a recommended reading list. If they read Crisis of Conscience, then, and only then, do we have something to discuss about the Witnesses. Other than that, I let them know that I still love them and will always welcome them and talk to them.

    Rememeber, you are in control.

    Dave

  • BlackSwan of Memphis
    BlackSwan of Memphis
    Actually I may have blown this one a little out of proportion only a couple of brother have made insinuations they were talking about homosexuals from the platform while looking strait at me. My mom hasn't caught on, but the fact they haven't used me for prayer or anything no attempt to try to get me to go in field service or consel me useless my mom gets them to do it tells me something is being said behind my back and I think it's that. Besides my field service which I only recently stop counting time. They don't have anything on me.

    Ah, I see, thanks for clarifying. Making insuinations still is not a cool thing to do. They should just leave it alone.

    Oh by the way no one but me and my doctor know about my condition by the way. As far any one else is concern I'm an ugly pretty boy.

    an ugly pretty boy? Not everyone is going to look like - fill in your choice of mchotty- and that's ok.

    I'm glad though that the information isn't getting to the wrong people.

    Keep us posted as to what comes of this!

  • uninformed
    uninformed

    Good shot honesty:

    Dear B.O.E.:

    The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses services are no longer needed as my spiritual advisors.

    Dear Brothers,

    I have decided to listen to MY God given CONSCIENCE. Good Bye!

    U

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