Where are you in your recovery process?

by Nicolas 29 Replies latest jw experiences

  • lfcviking
    lfcviking

    Nice heartfelt post that mate. Well i've gotta say i'm still in the early stages of my recovery but i do get a lot of comfort from this website.

    I was wondering what was the purpose of life if everyone die and then nothing happen after (in opposite to the resurrection teaching of the WBTS

    Who knows?

    I think that the most important thing is to be happy in the present

    I totally agree with you here, to be happy is the most important thing. I mean if your serving God (if there is one) and your not happy then whats the point?

  • zensim
    zensim

    I really think so much depends on your experiences growing up eg what your family was like, how they interpreted the 'truth', the witness mindset and culture of the day (ie, how old you are) and the witness mindset/culture of your country (I think here in Aus things aren't necessarily as extreme as, say, the US) and even your congregation. I came from quite a liberal cong - in fact it tended to be looked a bit down upon by other congs in the state because it was considered the more 'materialistic and worldly cong' (basically the brothers had nice cars, were a bit more affluent (which was also representative of the socio-economic suburb) and the young ones had a 'life' eg would go to concerts, the occasional nightclub etc).

    And then it also depends on your own personality and then how you were treated as a witness - were you df'd, did you da yourself in a grand 'up yours' gesture, did you fade away, do some people still speak to you, how much family and friends do you still have on the inside etc etc etc.

    My personality style is that I did a very quick fade (3 months) literally from the time my first strong doubts appeared. I then spent a whole year on the computer exploring so many different beliefs, conspiracy theories (don't go there unless you get off on paranoia), and also spent a lot of time in emotional therapy. So I did it all very quickly but VERY intensely. That was me - I don't necessarily suggest that for everyone because at times it almost killed me.

    I guess it boils down to a simple analogy for most people - do you prefer to pull the bandaid off really quickly or give it a soak and take it off real slow? There is no one way that is better - just what's best for you.

    And yep, I live in the present moment as much as I can. Leaving the org has given me more gratitude for life (how ironic considering they are supposed to be teaching about god?) so much so that now I can even be grateful for most of my upbringing - parents, jw, the whole lot. But then I wasn't overtly abused by it and when I read other people's experiences here I can understand their bitterness. I joined this forum a year ago, lurked for a couple of weeks, decided it was too 'negative and bitter' and, because I so didn't want to be like that, I didn't re-visit. I actually only accidentally came upon this forum again a week ago when I was deleting old sites in my 'favourites'. Had a quick look and this time I can be more objective about what I read here. Because I actually was bitter (and I knew that, I just didn't want to get stuck there) whereas now I am not.

    I think we all go through the same stages, just like someone grieving death. Just we all move through each stage at a different pace and in a different time frame. All we can hold out to you is that it does get a lot better - we promise!!

  • avidbiblereader
    avidbiblereader

    I was DF'd 6 1/2 years ago and it took me about 2 years to get over the anger, hatred, disillusion and every other negative emotion that I had and I took it out on God and Christ. About 4 years ago I turned to the Bible and nothing but the Bible and prayer as my search for the Real God of the Scriptures and it has been the most enlightening thing I have ever experienced as I have a closer relationship with Jehovah and Christ then ever. I have read things in the Bible many times and only now with prayer and humility do I see things so much clearer and I can say all praise to God through Christ that I feel and know the freedom that Christ taught and to be free from the cult and all it's pain. It was a rough road but I can say that I am totally over it and feel sorry for all those who still feel the tenacles of despair from the WT.

    abr

  • esw1966
    esw1966

    Hi!

    I liked your Thomas Jefferson quote. I think there is a lot of truth to it!

    I was a jw for 30 years and have now been away from it for 2 years this February. For the first 6 months after being df'd, divorced, and 'alone' I was CONVINCED that jw was the way to go. But my girlfriend would ask me questions and after a while, I had to know more!

    Now, I am attending 2 local community churches that I just LOVE! Cornwall Church and Christ the King.

    When I left my home to venture out into the world, I was determined to find the truth of life and why I was so screwed up! The only two things I knew to be true was love and Christ. I went from there. I checked out sermons on my ipod.

    I accepted Christ as my Saviour and then my life was changed forever! I became a NEW person. I don't even recognize myself. My motivation changed and the way I see others. Now I experience joy as I have never experienced before! I feel that I cannot deny it's power. It is now what I love and live!

    I prayed so many times to see if I was on the right path and God always answered in the affirmative! I am confident and happy! I was never that way as a jw.

    I now love life and those around me and I cannot wait for the future! I am overwhelmed with Christ's love!

    I hope you find all you are looking for!

    Ethan

  • Tyrone van leyen
    Tyrone van leyen

    I left 20 years ago. I am now 40. I have a great sense of loss for things that could have been. That's regret. This can cause anxiety as well. Time and knowledge continue to heal many wounds. There is a sense of hope for new begining's as I procede into the next half of life with lighter baggage. It is a time to move on with life while I am still healing.

  • Soledad
    Soledad

    I have made peace with my past and look forward to every new day. I no longer look back and feel regret. I feel like that all that I went through growing up as a JW made me who I am today and for that I am proud.

  • AllAlongTheWatchtower
    AllAlongTheWatchtower

    Hard to say for me...I'm 35 now and was DF from the Worldwide Church of God (another Borg-type organization) at the age of 13...there are still things about that part of my life that can keep me up at night. I first found this group when my wife began getting interested in JWs, and when I related my own past, several people on this board (CheckYourPremises chief among them, but I owe some thanks to several others who I can't recall at the moment) helped me compare the JWs and WWCG and see their similarities. This was enough to scare me, considering my own past, and convinced me to fight JWism; discouraging my wife from becoming further involved-successfully, so I thought.

    I thought we were past it all, until recently. I haven't posted here in a little over a year, but recently my wife and I found out we'll be having our first child soon. The details escape me, but during a benign conversation we were having about things that would have to change (both of us quitting smoking for the good of the child, for instance), she suddenly mentioned religious beliefs and church training, next thing I knew what had been a perfectly logical conversation was turning into an arguement and she was saying something about the JW beliefs and the 144,000. Arggg... what is it about this organization that's so damn insiduous?

  • Gill
    Gill

    AllAlongThe Watchtower - What is appealing to your wife, is the 'chance' for your child to live forever on earth in a paradise earth with no problems, illnesses blah de blah etc.

    This is what keeps JWs in their place, at least the ones who stay in not to lose their families. They believe in the 'impossible dream' and they believe the Watchtower false advertising campaign.

  • zensim
    zensim

    AllalongWatch - congratulations on your pregnancy! That's wonderful news for you and your wife.

    We all need hope and belief - in something (even if it is the belief that there is no god and there is only ourselves). And it seems like your wife is spiritually minded and has a belief in god - it is not at all unusual for people when they have children to question their faith more. I did, and the reverse happened, it took me away from the witnesses. So don't assume this is a bad thing.

    However, it depends on her emotional state. Obviously I don't know your wife, you or the ins and outs. But I am going to offer my suggestions here and see how they feel for you.

    Pregnancy is an emotional time anyway for all the good expected reasons and for all the hormonal reasons - ha ha (for me it was like having pmt for 9 months!). From what you have said and reading between the lines, in the past you have taken the intellectual dissuading approach and it seemed to work, until now. For this to come up again at this time I would appeal to the emotions and heart.

    Just ask her lots of questions. Don't try and argue with her (tho don't throw logic out the window either). But rather ask her why she has started thinking about all of this now? There could be some much deeper emotions going on that are driving this. Is there fear about having a child (will she be a good mother? does she worry about creating a safe space in a 'bad world'? finances? security? birth? etc etc). You asked why the org is so insidious and one of the reasons is because it plays on people's fears. Fear pretty much drives most people (to various degrees) - so see if you can find out what she is really worried about. If you try and take away what she is trying to latch on to it will just make her feel more insecure.

    Then talk positively about the type of environment (neutral) that you want to create for your child as a family. What kind of values do you want to instil? What kinds of principles, what is important to each of you, what can you both bring to the family (eg what are each of your strong points/gifts and how do you balance each other out?). Try and talk about a lot of positive aspects, it is important that she feels that these are within her and she is able to provide them for her child. The org plays on the 'helpless without us' aspect, help her see that she is more than capable of finding these answers from within, from you and from various sources.

    You can do all this without even mentioning the witnesses - it doesn't need to be about them really at all. This is a beautiful time for you and your wife - enjoy!

  • becca1
    becca1

    Am now officially "inactive" (6 mos. no FS). After this last CA I don't think I can go to anymore meetings. It will depend on how much flack I get from my grown children. We shall see...

    Emotionally, I've experienced: shock, anger, fear, confusion... Presently, I have accepted that I will not go back. I can't go back and be honest with myself. My only sadness is that my children are still "in". I maintain a warm relashionship with them. I don't know what will happen if I don't return to meetings....

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