How Do OLD AGE JWs Feel? (page 2)

Teirce

Even if they're cognizant that they pissed their life away, they still have the assurance and cushion of many younger generations who look up to them in varying degrees. There's always social relevance and validity up until they can't drive, and then somewhat afterwards if they were careful in their days to cultivate a reputation for being a fun or intriguing character.

Outaservice

There is a scripture that is applicable, stating 'Expectation postponed makes the heart sick'! Many feel that way but have too much invested in time and devotion to 'give it up' late in life.

My father-in-law, just before he died, said: 'They always said Armageddon was just around the corner but it must be a pretty large corner!

The only one who offered to pray with him in the end was the one 'apostate' son, none of the JW's who he so greatly believed in!

Outaservice (but still countin my time)

ballistic

Do you remember that pic (I think it's in the Live Forever book) of someone being given directions with the caption... If you had been driving the wrong way, would pride or stubborness prevent you from admitting it?

LizardSnot

What do you really know about Ray Franz, Fred? I'll bet you haven't even read his book!

"Most of what you've ever worried about will never come to pass"
-Heard from John Hagee on TBN

Fredhall

LizardSnot,

I really don't care about Ray Franz book. Why? It is not upbuilding book. Ray Franz spiritually beat his brothers and sisters.

LizardSnot

I must have missed that chapter...Fred

blondie

I guess the problem started with Russell when he thought the end was in 1914...all the anointed going to heaven to rule with Jesus...surprise! Not.

Many served God without a selfish goal in mind. Abraham knew he would never see the reward in his lifetime, but he did not pack up and go home. He didn't suffer too bad. Those tents weren't like Coleman tents we use. He was a wealthy man and had servants to do his bidding all his life. He had Isaac and lived to see his grandsons grow up to the age of 15. He married again and had more children after Sarah died.

I agree that the WTS has JWs looking so far ahead that they don't see what is good right in front of them. The question is what are their goals...if they are all selfish or they have them for a selfish motive, it's unlikely any reward will satisfy them.

If these older ones loved their families, loved and provided for their needs to the best of their ability, took the responsibility to follow the Bible and not men, I'm sure they don't feel like failures. If JWs truly believe that God is the giver of every good gift, then they know death is not a barrier to God's doing that.

Of course, I realize that some here are agnostics, atheists, etc., and this will not bear directly on their beliefs. But to those who are believers in God, it is good to reflect on that. Survivors of child abuse or rape could latch onto the past and what they were robbed of. It is better to live the present.

Yesterday is history.
Tomorrow is a mystery.
Today is a gift...that's why they call it the present.

AMarie

Fred,

Your faith in your god or your "organization" as some would say is very admirable.

However, you can't say that Ray Franz's book tears down brothers and sisters if you haven't read it yet. I read it and it is not that way at all. Ray doesn't resort to name calling or trashing the organization as you beleive all "apostates" do. His book is very objective, giving factual accounts of what happened when he served at Bethel and why he chose to leave the organization.

Before you proceed to trash us for reading these types of book saying that we were scammed out of God's true organization, try reading the book yourself. Who knows, maybe you will finish the book and still feel the way you do now. Or, you may see that Ray Franz and we "apostates" have valid reasons to feel the way we do. I do think that some people are filled with hate and are irrational, trying to make things difficult for the Witnesses out of pure meanness. However, despite what you are taught at the meetings, we "apostates" are not all evil like you think we are; We just have a different point of view due to our experiences.

A word to the wise: Coming onto this board and posting things like "someday you apostate's head are going to go through your asses at Armeggedon like the the people of the WTC" (or something to that effect) makes you look like the hateful, unloving one. Do you realize that you are displaying the type of personality that Witnesses critisize "apostates" for? You only make yourself look foolish.

AMarie

OhHappyDay

dear Fred

I thought like you before.

I continued thinking like You even after reading some excerpts of apostates writings. I felt angry about them. GRRRR!!

I stoped thinking like You after reading SOME CHAPTERS of Fred's 1st book.

Afraid?

Happy Day!

NeonMadman

If Fred had read Ray Franz' book, or the testimonies of scores of former JW's on the net who have been abused by the organization, he would know that it is the Watchtower organization that is very prominent in 'beating its brothers,' and not the other way around. If we are to understand Jesus remarks at the end of Matthew 24 in the way the Watchtower interprets it (i.e., the 'slaves' representing classes of JW's), it becomes very obvious from the facts of history that the true "evil slave" resides in Brooklyn, and Patterson, and Walkill.

Tom
"The truth was obscure, too profound and too pure; to live it you had to explode." ---Bob Dylan

How Do OLD AGE JWs Feel?

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