PROVE ME WRONG! JW's were the only religion to oppose Hitler

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  • truthsearcher
    truthsearcher

    Hi guys: thanks for all the help so far! I have done some Internet research and there is conflicting information but here is an interesting article:

    The Confessing Church

    Pastor Martin Niemoller ( left) was imprisoned in concentration camps during the war. Dietrich Bonhoeffer (right), a renown theologian, was hanged in the Flossenburg Concentration Camp on 9 April 1945. There has been a great deal of debate over church (Catholic & Protestant) responses to National Socialism. For the most part, the ethical prognosis for the Christian communities in Germany is poor. Nazism infiltrated the Protestant churches under the banner of the German Christian (Deutsche Christen) movement. The "German Christians" sprang up in Protestant parishes across Germany. The organization advocated the creation of an "Aryan Paragraph" in church synods that would prevent non-aryans (Jewish converts) from participating, ministering or teaching within the churches. However, there were some church officials who opposed the movement.

    Pastor Martin Niemoller, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and others formed the "Pastors Emergency League". The organization would later become known as the Confessing Church. The League sought and end to Nazi manipulation of the churches. Initially, the Confessing Church was concerned with the the policy of exclusion that the Aryan Paragraph advocated. The Confessing Church's leaders believed the exclusion of Jews from the church community was in direct violation of Christian teaching. As evangelical Christians they believed in the concept of spreading the Gospel, a concept the Aryan Paragraph contradicted. Some historians have been critical of the Confessing Church's motivations in opposing Nazism. Many view their evangelicalism as symptomatic of the mentality that helped engineer the rise of Nazism. Such views are short sighted. True, as evangelical Christians they may have sought to convert non Christians, but their opposition to the Nazis was not restricted to issues of conversion.

    Members of the Confessing Church helped approximately 2000 Jews escape to freedom. They also assisted political dissidents and fellow Christians persecuted by the regime. Bonhoeffer even liasoned with members of the military resistance, some of whom were involved in the July 20th bombing of the Wolf's Lair. He helped draft memoranda on a future democratic government in the event that the regime was toppled. Bonhoeffer also compiled evidence of SS crimes, and coordinated contacts with foreigners abroad to gain support for a number of resistance groups. Bonhoeffer's actions indicate a level of concern that superseded particular theological assertions. Members of the Confessing Church actively protested against the Nazi regime and its anti-Semitic policies.

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    For a more detailed understanding of the Confessing Church and Dietrich Bohnhoeffer's life please
    view Victoria Barnett's essay on Dietrich Bonhoeffer

    Catholic Resistance
    Father Bernhard Litchenberg
    died on the way to Dachau

    On 20 July 1933 the Catholic Church and Germany signed a Papal Concordat. The agreement was to guarantee the safety of the Catholic Church's institutions in Germany. In return for Nazi guarantees of security, the Catholic Church promised not to intervene in Germany's domestic policies. Despite this fact, a significant amount of the Church's leadership did protest the Nazi regime's programs. Clerics like Archbishop Michael von Faulhaber, Bishop Konrad Graf von Preysing, and Bishop Clemens Graf von Galen protested Nazi policies of abortion, sterilization, and euthanasia. Unfortunately, some of these protesters were much less vocal with regard to the crimes committed against Jews. Some Catholics, like Father Litchenberg, refused to be silent. Father Litchenberg publicly spoke out against Nazi policies. He frequently ended each Mass with prayers for the Jews. Litchenberg was eventually arrested, and served 2 years of penal servitude. He was arrested a second time, but died on his way to Dachau.

    Unfortunately, as an institution, the Catholic Church's efforts at assisting victims of the regime (including their own clerics) is minimal at best. Like their Protestant counterparts the Catholic Church had for the most part been silent. This should however, not subtract from the remembrance of those priests, nuns, monks, and lay people who sacrificed their lives to resist oppression.

    Other Areas of Religious Protest

    Thousands of Jehovah's Witnesses lost their lives in the camps for refusal to submit to the regime. Many other religious sects, such as the Mormons, non-denominational Christians, and others took an active stance against the regime. Likewise, many within the Jewish community protested Nazi policies despite their being its primary targets.

  • GermanXJW
    GermanXJW
    One guy there tried to say that the Jews are a race and not a religion. He also argued that JWs were the only ones (religion wise) who had to wear a badge (purple triangle). My thought was did it make someone of a religion less persecuted if he didn't have to wear a badge?

    The thing is that it were not only the JW that wore the purple triangle. The Russellite Bible Students also got that triangle, so did inmates of some smaller cults that the Nazis could not care to distinguish.

  • Confession
    Confession

    Former Bethelite, Barbara Grizzuti Harrison, shares this memory...

    The attack that stands out most vividly in my mind was one that was wrapped in an anti-Semitism that has infected the Watchtower Society since its beginning. In the Watchtower printery, and at the Bethel residence, we worked eight hours and forty minutes a day, five and a half days a week. We filled out time sheets daily at the factory, and there was no time allotted for coffee or rest breaks. An elderly Bethelite on my floor of the factory kept a small supply of chocolates and candies, which he sold to hungry workers at candy-store cost on an honor system; we dropped our nickels and dimes into a box while he was busy at his menial work. I suppose he made a few pennies' profit each day; and I suppose also that he was one of those who received no financial help from the outside, so that those pennies were important. I can't remember ever having heard him speak.

    Knorr heard about the little enterprise and read the old man out, at great length, in public. He tied his attack to the fact that the man was a Jew. The Jews, Knorr asserted, had always been willful, penny-grubbing ingrates. Jehovah had chosen them precisely to show that such unappetizing raw material could be redeemed if they adhered to His laws. The candy seller was, Knorr said, demonstrating all the abysmal qualities that had led the Jews to kill Christ. And so on, for an hour, while I cringed. Part of the horror was in knowing that there was no one I could share it with, no one to whom I would or could protest; part of the horror was my guilt. My silence was complicitous.

    http://www.exjws.net/visions2.htm

  • shadow
    shadow

    This thread is a joke. There are lots of things to attack JW’s on, but this isn’t one of them. As for Niemoller and the Confessing Church, they did not object to serving in the German military (see below).

    http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/niem.htm

    In that same book, on. p. 43, Niemöller explained in an interview with a US army chaplain why, while he was in Dachau, he offered to serve in the German navy. You can take his explanation or leave it - it sounds apologetic to me! Here it is:
    " Niemöller said he saw three possibilities: 1) if Germany lost the war, it would have been very bad for the country; 2) if the Nazis had won the war, it would have been even worse for Germany; 3) if fighting continued in the hope of pushing the Nazis out of the government and a negotiated peace might have come about. If that last possibility came true, he didn't want to be in prison, but wanted to contribute to the future of his country in freedom. also, his three sons had been drafted into the army, and he felt that in those circumstances a father's place was with his sons. "

    http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/projects/niem/Niem1946GuiltHope13-16.htm

    Of Guilt and Hope, by Martin Niemöller

    New York: Philosophical Library, 1947 [79 pp. 21 cm.]
    translation by Renee Spodheim of:
    Die deutsche Schuld, Not und Hoffnung,
    Zurich: Evangelischer Verlag, 1946.

    Document and analysis by Harold Marcuse, Professor of History at UCSB,
    page created May 2003, uploaded 9/17/04
    (part of my Martin Niemöller Quotation page)

    According to a short announcement in the New York Times on Aug. 5, 1947, this translation was withdrawn from circulation by the Philosophical Society after it became known that Niemoeller may have supported the Nazis as early as 1924.

  • Qcmbr
    Qcmbr

    Plenty of Catholics, Protestants and smaller christian movements opposed Hitler. They did it with guns and blood on the beaches of Normandy and in the streets of France. All credit to those JWs who didn't fight for Hitler (and sufferred) - zero credit to those who wouldn't fight to get rid of him and then make a mockery of the freedom won on their behalf by denouncing the brave who fought and bled.

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    I heard a rumor that a former Jehovah's Witness led a small group of people into Berlin riding on a tank and liberated the Jehovah's Witnesses (and others) who were in prisons.

  • Confession
    Confession

    Shadow, the original question was whether or not JWs were the only religion to oppose Hitler. But the Watchtower Society's leadership did not oppose Hitler...until their sucking up was ignored by the Fuhrer. Only then did they begin to oppose him.

    Prior to this there is much written evidence that they courted Hitler's favor by claiming they were "squarely for" the principles expressed by the Nazis. In his "Declaration of Facts," Rutherford chastised other religions for their boycott of Germany, calling it an "insult" and asserting that JWs would not participate in such opposition in reaction to Germany's "announced principle." This "announced principle"--this reason why other religions and governments were boycotting the country--referred to its policies regarding the Jews. And the WTS pulled no punches in criticizing Jews in both the "Declaration of Facts," the WTS' letter to Hitler, and in many other publications of the time--even calling them "the representatives of Satan the Devil."

    The fact that many rank & file JWs held fast to their religion and went to their deaths is undisputed. But this fact has been so dramatized that most of us never thought to question whether the WTS itself was above reproach during the Nazi era. It was only after Hitler refused to accept their sucking up that Rutherford called on German JWs to seek martyrdom by carrying on a campaign of passive resistance.

    I don't wish to minimize the noble spirit in which thousands of JWs died for a principle. But it sickens me to learn of the actual disposition of their religious leaders at the WTS during this time. M. James Penton's "Jehovah's Witnesses and The Third Reich" contains a wealth of information on this subject. I invite you to give it a read.

    Best,

    Confession

  • MsMcDucket
    MsMcDucket

    Quakers and Nazis

    Inner Light in Outer Darkness
    Hans A. Schmitt
    ISBN 0-8262-1134-8
    312 pages

    With numerous poignant illustrations of the pressure and social cost involved in being a Quaker from 1933 to 1945, Quakers and Nazis: Inner Light in Outer Darkness reveals a facet of Nazi Germany that is entirely unknown to most people. The book focuses on the heroic acts foreign and German Quakers performed under the Nazi regime, offering fully documented and original information regarding the Quakers' commitment to nonviolence and the relief of the victims.

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