WATCHTOWER beginnings: the neurotic/erotic leader: C.T.Russell

by Terry 15 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Terry

    You have raised some interesting thoughts. I've had a few running around in my brain but I haven't gathered enough info yet to support it so at this point it is conjecture

    I have no doubt Charles Taze Russell had sexual feelings. He was human, after all! But, I personally think he was neurotically afflicted about these feelings. Because of his mother's influence on him (and Scottish Presbyterian bugaboos about the evil of sexuality) Russell entered the "marriage" with a weird and perverse "prenuptial agreement" never to have physical relations with Maria.

    My theory is that both Russell and Maria were busy writers. They worked well together and possibly at times they were alone together. We are talking about people who lived in a very sexually repressed culture that looked down on men and single women who were often alone (just think of how the WTS today thinks that men and women must never be alone, not only for their protection but for appearances sake)

    The work was crucial for both of them. But working long hours, sometimes into the night was sure to draw comment. They may have never done anything sexually but if the rumors started they would have to find a way to stop them.

    So they agreed to a marriage in name only. This would satisfy the needs of those who were critical of them working alone. And both would be able to as much as they wanted without ridicule.

    For me, this provides a reason why Maria would agree to a marriage of convenience. Her reputation would remain clean and she and Russell would continue the work they were so dedicated to.

    I suspect that Russell relied very much on Maria and gave her attention due to the doctrinal contributions she was making. It had to be very flattering. Getting a marriage proposal, regardless of the strings attached would have been an honor. On some unconscious level she may have hoped that after time there would be more in the relationship. So she accepted.

    They continued to work together, but now the rumors were stilled.

    Enter Rose Ball. A young woman. Dedicated to the cause. A hard worker and she got the eye of Russell. And if the story is correct got a bit of his arms and lips as well.

    So there was Maria who had accepted this marriage deal, perhaps with the hope that one day Russell would be willing to consumate the marriage. And she sat back and watched him turn his attentionto a young woman in their midst. And not only was Rose the flower in Russell's eye but he admitted to interests in other palces as well.

    Maria had to be jealous. His eye and attention was going off to other women while she was only valued for her mind. That had to be a blow. And if this scenario is correct her jealousy may have been what moved her to file for the divorce.

    She admitted that she did not think he ever crossed the line and committed adultery. gave up a lot for this marriage of convenience.

    If she had any ideas that one day she could expect love and perhaps a family were sacrificed. She could have married someone else and had those things but now it was too late. Divorced women weren't often considered a good catch. But she couldn't stay and continue to watch Russell give his attention to other women while she sat on the sidelines.

    Like I say - only conjecture but I think it offers an idea about why she would have accepted this marriage to begin with

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    Terry:

    This psychology of the core personality is behind everything in a profoundly hidden way unless we penetrate the shroud.

    Indeed. And in that respect, perhaps one of the reasons we "need" leaders, and especially, faulty leaders, is to have someone else to examine and dissect--when, perhaps, what we are really trying to do (without admitting it to ourselves) is to examine and dissect ourselves. Hence the "How could he have been so stupid and weird????" becomes (under our breath, in the back of our minds, in words preferably unuttered): "How could I have been so weird and stupid????"

    Well, anyway, that's sort of how I think about myself...and I apologize for taking your thread off track.

  • yaddayadda
    yaddayadda

    "Russell entered the "marriage" with a weird and perverse "prenuptial agreement" never to have physical relations with Maria."

    Proof please!

  • Terry
    Terry
    "Russell entered the "marriage" with a weird and perverse "prenuptial agreement" never to have physical relations with Maria."

    Proof please!
    Russell's marriage
    On March 131879, Russell married Maria (pronounced 'moriah') Frances Ackley (1850-1938) after merely a few months' acquaintance. Although expressing a fondness for each other, the marriage was not based on a romantic love, but was a mutually agreed upon celibate partnership established for preaching the gospel. In 1897 they separated following disagreements over the propriety of her role in the management of Zion's Watch Tower magazine. Russell recorded his version of events in the July 151906 issue that can be read here In 1906, she sued him for divorce under the claim of mental cruelty as a direct result of their marriage agreement of perpetual celibacy. During the trial she indirectly alleged sexual misconduct by Charles with a Watch Tower stenographer whom they had long been caring for as a foster child. The Brooklyn Daily Eagle published what was claimed to be segments from the court transcript, which can be read by visiting this link Maria Russell, as she was named in her obituary, died in St. Petersburg, Florida in August of 1938 from Hodgkin's disease.

    http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell

  • proplog2
    proplog2

    My explanation for Russells religion - DAMP-RAT syndrome.

    "An acrostic in which each letter stands for a descriptive adjective, as follows: D - dilettante A - arty M - monotophobic P - perverse R - restive A - affected T - theatrical These seven adjectives define a fairly specific pattern of personality manifestations which falls within the more general category of gynandrophrenia... All or nearly all of the male homosexuals I have encountered... are DAMP RATs; but not all of the latter are homosexuals. There are many who live the "arty-perverse" DAMP RAT pattern with never a suggestion of homosexuality."

    Varieties of Delinquent Youths-- Dr. William Sheldon

  • Terry
    Terry

    The psychology of religious leaders is a profound study, indeed.

    Most people just take it on face value that certain people are leaders. But, there is obviously more to it than that.

    It isn't like being born with blonde hair and blue eyes.

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