by Gill 58 Replies latest jw friends
Danny,
This is the first time that I have seen the presentation you posted. Thank you.
I know Dave Gianapoulis from having lived in a nearby congregation. When you see the reality of the stupidity of the WT stand on blood, it really makes you feel bad for these people.
You can take blood fractions though! Whoopee! I wonder where they pick up those blood fractions?
Brant
Dear Friends,
Gill gave me the go-ahead on making this correction:
Rutherford died in 1942; he was opposed to publishing Freddie's and Clay's new light, their "special knowledge." FWF talked Knorr into approving this stand on blood to solidify his position as the new WT president. The policy was used to stir up the community as persecution was waning after WWII's end. Book sales! This is supported by research by Ray Franz, E.C. Gruss, and Dr. Jerry Bergman.
www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/126825/1.ashx
"Persecution Wanes/Banning Blood Garners Publicity"
CoCo
"Persecution Wanes: Banning Blood Garners Persecution"
It's sounds like making a sacrifice of your life to a false god to me.
Dear MsMcDucket,
Your point is well-made and -taken! Sorry---I was mistaken with the title of my own thread. I edited it : "Persecution Wanes/Banning Blood Garners Publicity." Well, either way, the stand on blood got the JWs the publicity AND persecution Freddie so ardently desired for the dear sheep. The war is over; what can we stir into the cauldron now? Madness! No wonder the GB is where they are currently. And the Society says being a member of another church makes one "blood-guilty"!
CoCo
I've noodled the special blood meeting in England all day in the hopes of figuring out what Bethel's offense/defense is up to. What are the facts. A 2 day meeting with all the important elders and cancelling today's regular meetings. If they are cancelling regular meetings, it's probably really BIG.
This may seem like a wild idea....but, what if some (perhaps just 1 or a few more) of England's top JWs no longer believe in the blood policy and is about to do a Ray Franz-type move (i.e. leave the congregations and/or go public). What if they/he also wanted to take some of the rank & file JWs, and start a new type of church? That would be good reason to send in Bethalites, hold 2 day special meetings, and cancel regular meetings. In other words, Bethel is trying to regain control/do a pep rally/instill fear on the remaining elders, as they are losing ground at a fast rate.
It could be just one of my wild ideas...but it's the best I could come up with.
Skeeter
p.s. Perhaps I drank too much Maker's Mark....
What if this has to do with the recent law in Britain regarding the confidential records of judicial proceedings that each congregation has. Are they being told how to destroy these under the guise of a meeting on blood? If meetings are cancelled, that could be it.
The jw's will never ever recant this policy on blood, too many people have died to date, to make any changes at this state of the game. They know any changes could and would fracture their power base to crumbles. Don't ever expect new light to appear on this subject matter because it never will. Someone's child is going to die, someone's mother, someone's father and all humanity will cry because of it, all for the sick and perverse reason for men wanting power, what a slap in face to humanity !
BTTT
All I know is the local congs meeting was cancelled. Due to maintenance I heard but maybe it was this elders meeting.
Will try and find out more.
Anglise
Thetrueone - No new light? Jehovah's Witnesses already are permitted to take blood fractions - this is new light.
Vinnys post on this was very interesting as he tears apart the WTBTS law making on blood. But! Once the WTBTS banned vaccinations. Now vaccinations are fine. Once the WTBTS banned organ transplants and now they're fine. Once the WTBTS banned all blood and blood products....and on this one we're half way there.....blood products are fine. One more little step and taking blood will be entirely a conscience matter. And Why?
The WTBTS cares more for the dollar/pound/lire/franc etc in its pocket than it does about its slaves lives.
The WTBTS provides the information on why blood is so bad, and provides the HLC members to help the slaves prevent blood transfusions. For the WTBTS to be totally free of any liability they will have to stop both of these activities and I suspect that will eventually happen.
Many of the WTBTS slaves are choosing to die from lack of blood from their own free will now. They don't have the diligence to actually find out whether what their masters have told them for years is true or not; that the Bible condemns taking blood transfusions.
Eventually, this has to come to court in one way or another. If the WTBTS wants to avoid that then it will have to drop its sanctions on accepting blood transfusions. It is no longer sanctionable by DF'ing. Though the results are the same with being considered DA'ing, the WTBTS is not permitted to DF a person. Little steps, and even tiny steps. But there is constant 'new light' from the lawyers in Brooklyn.
The blood policy will either have to go completely back to the drawing board and be taken as a blanket ban, or it will just have to be quietly dropped.
The WTBTS may not WANT to make these decisions but it will be FORCED to make them.....not next week, not next month even, but maybe far sooner than we can imagine.
