Stupid Americans

by Mackin 61 Replies latest jw friends

Abaddon

Robdar
That's because the world isn't out to get the Kiwis, Ozzies and Brits.
Oh my god! How paranoid can you get?! Or is it conceited?
How much anti-Kiwi sentiment have you run into lately?
See ME watch the Rugby World Cup when the Kiwi's play Wales and you'll have enough for a lifetime. When a country effects you in a negative way, you are liable to have anti-that country entiments. Doh. You're smart, stop knee-jerking and think woman!
How much anti America?
It isn't anti-America (sic), it is;
1/ anti telling a bunch of lies and invading a country using those lies as a justification and then ballsing up the invasion so badly the invaded country is an open sore on the face of the planet.
2/ anti stupid American politicians who, whilst they may not lie MORE than other (non-American) politicians, by benefit of the power they wield, have the most damging lies.
3/ anti stupid American companies raping the Earth's arse who, whilst they may not rape the Earth's arse more frequently than other (non-American) companies, by benefit of their size, do the most damage when they do.
4/ a failure to accept that American's on average are terribly ignorant about the world and are thus likely to make themselves idiots when dealing with the outside world. I've been asked by American students AND teachers (whilst teaching in American schools) "what language do they speak in England"!! Argh!!!!
However, given the above which is all caused by ACTIONS, and the same actions carried out by another country would result in the same reactions, it is not anti-American. It is anti-whatever the harmful/stupid behaviour is.
Apart from a small number of religious idiots who hate Americans as that is that they have been brainwashed to do, most people around the world don't have major issues with particular Americans unless a particular American does something unpleasent to them. The poor level of knowledge about the world Americans frequently demonstrate makes them funny sometimes, but finding American's FUNNY sometimes is NOT anti-American.
To reach that conclusion you must be drunker than most other English men
Oh, poor dear. There's a difference between being catty and PERSONAL and taking the piss out a generic group of people. Well done at bringing it down... your 'sense of humour' is a matched set with Bush's foreign policy.
Littletoe
Nationalism is a serious business, and you'll be hard pressed to find an American who can consistently take the p*ss out of his own country with you, without him eventually getting his feelings hurt by taking it personally. I think it's to do with social conditioning from birth.
Yup, but wait for the denials made by (typically ignorant about the outside world) Americans that they are no more nationalistic than many countries (which typically Americans haven't visited). LOL.
And Jeff, dude, are you so eager to assume the title of this thread meant all Americans? You're too smart to think there are NO stupid Americans... why didn't you assume this thread was about those American's who ARE stupid, rather than a statement that ALL American's are stupid? Oh,hang on... okay... I get it...
Robdar

It isn't anti-America (sic), it is;
1/ anti telling a bunch of lies and invading a country using those lies as a justification and then ballsing up the invasion so badly the invaded country is an open sore on the face of the planet.
2/ anti stupid American politicians who, whilst they may not lie MORE than other (non-American) politicians, by benefit of the power they wield, have the most damging lies.
3/ anti stupid American companies raping the Earth's arse who, whilst they may not rape the Earth's arse more frequently than other (non-American) companies, by benefit of their size, do the most damage when they do.
4/ a failure to accept that American's on average are terribly ignorant about the world and are thus likely to make themselves idiots when dealing with the outside world. I've been asked by American students AND teachers (whilst teaching in American schools) "what language do they speak in England"!! Argh!!!!
However, given the above which is all caused by ACTIONS, and the same actions carried out by another country would result in the same reactions, it is not anti-American. It is anti-whatever the harmful/stupid behaviour is.
Apart from a small number of religious idiots who hate Americans as that is that they have been brainwashed to do, most people around the world don't have major issues with particular Americans unless a particular American does something unpleasent to them. The poor level of knowledge about the world Americans frequently demonstrate makes them funny sometimes, but finding American's FUNNY sometimes is NOT anti-American.
So you do have anti-American sentiments and you are self righteous about too. No surprise there. It is as I thought and you prove my point.
To reach that conclusion you must be drunker than most other English men
Oh, poor dear. There's a difference between being catty and PERSONAL and taking the piss out a generic group of people. Well done at bringing it down... your 'sense of humour' is a matched set with Bush's foreign policy.
Remeber your sense of humour, Abaddon. You know, the sense of humor you are always telling Americans to have. Looks like you can't laugh at yourself but feel fine about passing around advice to others. Typical.
LittleToe

You honestly didn't reach those conclusions from what he wrote, did ya sis?
In the first point, it's exactly the opposite of what he said (in his usual verbose manner) and on the second point he counter-attacked with more wit. There's nothing in his comments to suggest that he took anything personally, or attacked anyone. At least, not when read with a pair of Brit eyes...
Robdar

Hi Bro, I am glad somebody thinks Ab is witty.
I am at work and do not have time to try to find the humor in His Royal Huffiness' posts. Perhaps it's his overuse of "Stupid" that causes my eyes to glaze over. Either way, since the English are involved with us in Iraq and in the Middle East, I have to wonder why they are so self righteous and pissy and acting like it's all the fault of the US.
Abaddon is English, correct? An English man living in the Netherlands.
sammielee24

This is too funny. I can understand all your points but I just want to address Little Toe's comments and say - I love the Brit humour and find some of their sitcoms the funniest. I only have to ask you one thing? When Tony Blair ends his speeches, how does he end them? When the Queen gives her speeches to the country, how does she end them? When talk show hosts end their broadcast on television and radio, how do the sign off? In the USA, you will commonly hear the terms 'God Bless America' and 'The Greatest Nation on Gods Green Earth', used in politics, entertainment and a lot of other venues. sammieswife.
LittleToe

Robyn:
I think the "stupid" word is grossly overused. It rarely finds its way into my vocabulary.
Unfortunately Blair was stupid enough to follow Bush into Iraq. THAT makes my eyes glaze over! Fortunately we can be quick to disown our leaders, and don't identify them with the country, anyhow
And, yes, Gyles is English (though he might not accept that precise description)
Sammie:
The Queen ends her speaches with "God bless me, hoorah!"
sammielee24

I think it's to do with social conditioning from birth
..That was the point of my question. It is not uncommon to hear 'God Bless America'..or 'Greatest Nation' at any given time whether it be a news, political, celebrity event or talk show. This promotes the idea that America is the greatest nation and if one hears that often enough, then they believe it. Indeed much of the USA is extremely insular. That is my personal view as well - and does not equate to whether a person is intelligent or not. I'm not big on generalizations myself so I do understand the feelings related to the title - but - what I find more interesting is that it's kind of like the generalizations that I hear from my friends in declaring the French Idiots. It amounts to the same thing and in a verbal discussion it comes across as much more derogatory than when written and meant as an 'instigating come on'. sammieswife
Abaddon

Robdar
So you do have anti-American sentiments and you are self righteous about too. No surprise there. It is as I thought and you prove my point.
Slight problem with that. You don't have a point, QED. If you can distort 'anti-bad things' into 'anti-American' it is YOU who are making the causal link.
Remeber your sense of humour, Abaddon. You know, the sense of humor you are always telling Americans to have. Looks like you can't laugh at yourself but feel fine about passing around advice to others. Typical.
Ah, I see, someone with no sense of perspective telling me I took it out of proportion. I think you guys call that 'cute'.
I use stupid and gave my meaning. I can type out 'uninformed, 'insular', etc., but in this rare instance I favour susicintness. Funny how someone earlier said Americans 'get it' if they know it is meant to be funny, and you're at work (unfunny environment).
Either way, since the English are involved with us in Iraq and in the Middle East, I have to wonder why they are so self righteous and pissy and acting like it's all the fault of the US.
Robdar... it IS the fault of the US. Specifically the Bush administration, just in case you think I'm being anti-American in general. A subject for another thread maybe, but I'm surprised you can still think otherwise. Bad things may have happened anyway, but if a company was run like the US has run the Iraq invasion, the share-holders would bring in new management.
And I will probably agree with every negative thing you have to say about the UK being in Iraq, and never accuse you of being anti-British. Yes, I am rather proving a point, just not the one you thought.
Abaddon is English, correct? An English man living in the Netherlands.
Oh joy, what pearls of wisdom shall this observation hearald?
Ross
(in his usual verbose manner)
I ramble, therefore I am. So call me sesquipedalian. The 't' on your keyboard is sticky by-the-way ;-P
Love and kisses to you and your love from me and Kate.
And, aye laddie, I'm English, ya' mad wee kilty you. An I've nert te be afrai' o' with yon fine Hadrian's Wall confounding the devices o' the wee Picts living in the wilds beyond.
One thing I've never got Ross. How come the Scots (stereotypically) have this massive grudge against the English? I mean, you guys WON. Your King became our King, hard to see it any other way than as a total victory for the Scottish. I think the Scots Parliament should start taxing England... ooh, they do ;-)
Welsh during Rugby. English by simple dint of birth and upbringing (although I was almost born in Naples, or Australia) and quite happy with it I suppose, British by nationality, living with Dutchess (and kid) in Clogland on a bog in a windmill, wearing clogs and eating cheese and herring in between consuming massive quantities of drugs and porn, before a bracing walk around the red-light district... (sorry, Robdar has to write her own post, mustn't spoil her fun).
sammieswife
When Tony Blair ends his speeches, how does he end them?
Something along the lines of 'goodbye'. Currently a very very very long-drawn out goodbye. Like a five year-old playing cowboys and indians and not playing dead when he gets shot. No 'god' branding, or 'the UK and god are best buddies' sentiments.
When the Queen gives her speeches to the country, how does she end them?
Dunno, never watched one through to the end. What Ross says is far funnier than any likely reality though.
When talk show hosts end their broadcast on television and radio, how do the sign off?
Tune in again please, or words to that effect.
We used to play the National Anthem in cinemas and theatres, years and years ago. Dunno if they do it at football games normally, don't think so anymore.
The US stereotypical attitude is 'best place on Earth glad I am American don't disrespect me or mine I am proud of it'.
The UK stereotypical attitude is 'good god what a dreadful place, still some bits are lovely and I'd rather be here than anywhere else', and as slagging Britain of is a major hobby of the British will probably buy you a (warm) beer if you start to.
Robdar

Robdar... it IS the fault of the US. Specifically the Bush administration, just in case you think I'm being anti-American in general. A subject for another thread maybe, but I'm surprised you can still think otherwise. Bad things may have happened anyway, but if a company was run like the US has run the Iraq invasion, the share-holders would bring in new management.
You are absolutely correct. It is our fault. I will never say otherwise. We will rue the day that we (as a collective--you are aware I didn't support the war) invaded Iraq. However, you guys are in the thick of it with us. Instead of getting grumpy with the American people, maybe you should direct some of that ire at Blair.
This: "Oh joy, what pearls of wisdom shall this observation hearald?" tickled me so much I have yet to stop laughing. Thanks for the belly laugh.
Abaddon

Robdar
You are absolutely correct. It is our fault. I will never say otherwise. We will rue the day that we (as a collective--you are aware I didn't support the war) invaded Iraq. However, you guys are in the thick of it with us. Instead of getting grumpy with the American people, maybe you should direct some of that ire at Blair.
How, in responding to a sentence where I specifically mention the Bush Administration, and say I mention it so people won't think I am being anti-American in general, you can then ignore I said that and make out like I said it about you? Step away from the sceen Robdar, you're so into lashing out you ignore I make it obvious I'm not having a go at you or Americans in general.
And I could bore you silly with ire about Blair, thank you.
This: " Oh joy, what pearls of wisdom shall this observation hearald?" tickled me so much I have yet to stop laughing. Thanks for the belly laugh.
I'm glad you're laughing, I sometime worry you take this too seriously. Don't worry, you make me laugh too.

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