You beat me to it BlackSwan!! I was going to put the words of that song here too. That song came to mind after I read your post!!
Juni
what the hell is up ...
by BlackSwan of Memphis 15 Replies latest jw friends
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BlackSwan of Memphis
Great minds think alike
if you can find an mp3 link that would be cool too!
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bebu
When the chips are down, people are very tempted to take the easy route of "X is the problem, so let's obliterate X (and everyone who believes X) entirely". The cure becomes worse than the illness.
I think the coca-cola love is nice, but not deep enough. Real love is a tough thing to do, because it means that when people really fundamentally differ from you (such as, are willing to punish/kill you because you don't see eye-to-eye with them), you still have to have grace to forgive their "messed-up thinking" (my point of view, of course ), even while they are set to behead you.
bebu
love never fails class
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BlackSwan of Memphis
I think the coca-cola love is nice, but not deep enough. Real love is a tough thing to do, because it means that when people really fundamentally differ from you (such as, are willing to punish/kill you because you don't see eye-to-eye with them), you still have to have grace to forgive their "messed-up thinking" (my point of view, of course ), even while they are set to behead you.
I certainly would not disagree with you.
It has to start with the thought. Then the thought has to grow. We can "take the easy route of "X is the problem, so let's obliterate X (and everyone who believes X) entirely". The cure becomes worse than the illness ."
OR we can nurture and feed and grow love. So, we can choose to do the opposite. Still, you get my drift that it's got to be a group thing, community effort.
IF we are able to nurture and feed hate and negative feelings that divide us, we can do the opposite. That's why I wonder if negative threads just feed the negative feelings that divide us.
To grow real love for humankind, we need to nurture it, feed it, grow it, not just within our selves, but with one another. It might take several centuries. But if one small group of persons, regardless of creed or race, were to feed the notion of love, then is it possible that we could achieve it?
There is an article you might like, I have to dig it out. It was in some obscure magazine about peace (can you tell I dig the notion of peace man?) Regarding the Quakers in early America, one woman in particular. Very intersting. I have to get to cleaning up the house, but I'll find it and post parts of it later or well, soon. If I can get a link, I'll do that.
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History shows that it will never happen. It only takes one person who knows how to control peoples minds to ruin all the love in a nation.
Ken P.
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BlackSwan of Memphis
hm I can't find that article. But I do remember the name of the woman in particular, Mary Dyer. The article itself was in regards to peace vs hostile confrontation. I'll look a little more later or else try to find it online (If I can remember the name of the magazine specifically)
History shows that it will never happen. It only takes one person who knows how to control peoples minds to ruin all the love in a nation.
Ken P.
well, we could look at this from a couple of points of view: a) To say never is extreme. I say this because the human race will very likely continue for several more centuries. Maybe hundreds, maybe thousands. Past that, the sun will die out or we'll get sucked into a black hole or name your choice of disaster. In that time period, is it not even possible that even human evolution could carry us to that point? I won't say probable, but possible? b) What if, just what if, over the next several centuries people finally adopted the view of love thy neighbor? Yes it might take 1000 years. To say it would never happen ya never know. c) If we say we can't, if we say never, if we don't foster the view that it Is possible, that it Can happen, then it won't. To me history has shown me a lot of things. Humility, compassion, love. Perseverence in the face of adversity. For every one person that says it's impossible, when you (me, he, she...) become the voice that says it is. We have every reason to believe that we can influence those around us as well. I would much rather be the person to believe that it is possible, then the person who doesn't. I would much rather foster the thinking that it is possible to achieve a world where we can accept each other for who we are. Is peace possible? We have to keep believing it is. What do we gain if we stop?