I did the same and got 1950 hits - should I have used quotes?
This Greber 'coverup' is disgusting, Isn't it?
by AK - Jeff 34 Replies latest watchtower scandals
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Atlantis
We would like to add our own warning for all Jehovah's Witnesses and Bible believers. Beware of the Watchtower's own NEW WORLD TRANSLATION, for it has been tainted by the teachings of demons.
1 - THE WORD, WHO IS HE? -- ACCORDING TO JOHN, 1962, p. 5;
2 - AID TO BIBLE UNDERSTANDING, 1971, pp. 1134, 1669;
3 - MAKE SURE OF ALL THINGS, 1965, p. 489;
4 - WATCHTOWER, September 15, 1962, p. 554,
5 - WATCHTOWER, October 15, 1975, p. 640;
6 - WATCHTOWER, April 15, 1976, p. 231.
The Watchtower is deliberately lying!
Just take a look at the dates of these two letters:
So, in 1981 the Watchtower Society didn't know any place to get the Greber Translation? That's a blatant lie! Just take a look at this letter the Watchtower Society did send to The JOHANNES GREBER MEMORIAL FOUNDATION about a year before - December 20. 1980:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/who_is_greber.htm
Another Spirit Medium used by the Watchtower!
Recently, in 1985, the Watchtower Society issued a revised version of its The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures. In the appendix, at 2A, page 1139, they have dredged up one more obscure English translation which appears to support theirs, The Monotessaron; or the Gospel History According to the Four Evangelists, By John S. Thompson, of Baltimore, published in 1829. However, the American Quarterly Review, volume 8, Sept/Dec 1830, published an article on Thompson's work clearly revealing that he too was guided by demonic influence in his translation!
In their new book entitled Witnesses of Jehovah, Leonard and
Marjorie Chretien give us new information on just who John S. Thompson
was. They quote The American Quarterly Review of September, 1830.
Here we read Thompson saying, "I shall rejoice in having been the
happy instrument, in the hand of God, of having done fourfold as much
for mankind, as all the professed commentators of the last fifteen
centuries!" Aside from a lack of humility, it seems Thompson was
"moved about by every wind of doctrine" as well, moving from being a
Calvinist to an Arminian Methodist preacher, to being a
Restorationist, then on to an Arian Restorationist, until finally
being a Unitarian Universalist (should sound familiar by now!) The
Chretiens also record that Thompson admits to having experiences
with - yup, you guessed it - spirit beings who instruct him to "be
careful to represent Jesus as only the instrument of God in all he
does." The reader is directed to the Chretiens' book for further
details.http://www.witnessinc.com/greber.html
http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-Greber.htm
The following is from "Fanatical Guides," an article in The American Quarterly Review of September 1830, volume 8 (pp. 227 to 245). It describes, in Thompson's own words, his experience with spiritism:
"My honesty in expressing my sentiments, nearly destroyed my fellowship with the whole body of professing Christians, and caused me much bitterness. I appeared almost as an isolated individual, feeling no interest in any party, nor almost in any terrene object. The subject of religion seemed to me to wear a gloomy picture. For a time, I desisted from every religious meeting whatever, and for several months dreaded insanity. My application to study was inexpressibly intense : I never slept more than two or three hours. The deity of Jesus, the immortality of the soul, and some other subjects, continually kept my mind in excitement. Having adopted Materialism on the Priestleyan plan, I could not admit the existence of spirits in our world; for all antiquity supposed spirits to have been originally men : but if there had been no resurrection, there could be no human spirits.
"I will now proceed to relate things, just as I have before done, agreeably to the views and impressions I then had ; leaving every one to form his own opinion. I acknowledge, my mind was in a state of great excitement, at the time I had these extraordinary impressions; but it did not then seem to me, nor does it yet, that the degree of the excitement was adequate to the phenomena.I awoke, one night, and heard a considerable noise in my room. I listened carefully for some time, and the sound was that of a thousand pens, writing in great haste what was dictated. I heard a voice very distinctly, saying, - ‘In all your writings, be careful to represent Jesus as only the instrument of God in all he does.’ I immediately interrupted, by exclaiming,- ‘Silence! I’ll not believe one of you.’ The noise immediately stopped; and I was often afterward sorry that I had interrupted the dictation. I examined; but there was no person in the room, the door being locked, and none had yet arisen in the house.
"Not long after, sleeping in the same room, I awoke by pressure, which removed immediately on awaking. I began to reflect, whether it was a dream, or an external force applied to my body. Whilst I doubted, some being took hold of my hands, and pressed with violence, which excited in me great surprise. My hands were let loose, but, in one minute, they were again seized, with renewed violence. I then cried, - 'Let me loose! I believe! do not injure me! I am entirely satisfied of your existence!’ The pressure on my hands was immediately removed, and I then felt greatly agitated, and tossed in my bed. In two minutes after, my hands were seized a third time : I then complained loudly, but, in a minute of time, I was again set at liberty. I leaped on the floor, determined that I would make full proof, whether any person had got into the room : though I believed that no man could apply so much strength as I had experienced on my hands. The first thing I did was to examine the door, which I found as I had left it, locked, with they key in the inner side. I took the key out of the door and again trying it, found it fast. I then groped all over the room, but found nobody. I retired to my bed, placing the key under me, and waiting for the light of day.’"
http://www.forananswer.org/Top_JW/Thompson.spiritism.htm
Here is a scan of the Watchtower's 1985 Kingdom Interlinear Translation with John S. Thompson used as a reference.
Cheers! Atlantis-
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AK - Jeff
Thanx Atlantis - much appreciated sources. Those letters are damning aren't they. I was unaware that in the later version they used yet another spiritist. Unreal!
Jeff
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onacruse
greendawn:
Rutherford was after all a spirit medium, just like Johannes Greber, who also had the Bethel boys playing with ouija boards. Add to this Russell's occultic activities and we have a WTS meddling in occultism for half of its existence.
And your evidence is?
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avidbiblereader
Oh the web we weave when we seek to decieve.
abr
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Amazing
The NWT contains thousands of serious errors. The NWT committee and the Watchtower Society simply rewrote the Bible to suit themselves. I will make a new post that shows some of the many problems with the NWT.
Jim Whitney
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AK - Jeff,
I don't know what all the fuss is about. I commented on this a long time ago: the WTS is "spirit directed", is it not? Therefore Greber is a good guy!
Farkel
I am assume spirit is a double meaning or the spirit in question originates from the depths or hell or hades
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MeneMene
Johannes Greber, John Thompson -- and don't forget C.J. Woodworth -- who wrote the commentary on Revelation in the 1917 book The Finished Mystery. See www.geocities.com/Heartland/2919/200d.html
Woodworth is quoted as saying, "and I came directly under the influence of evil spirits, so much so that for three days I was as completely under demonical control as was Mrs. Eddy when she wrote 'Science and Health.'"
According to geocities website, Woodworth was also the continuous editor of The Golden Age from its first issue in 1919 to the last issue of Consolation in July, 1946. -
mcsemike
Russell is difficult to take seriously when he thought that the bumps on a person's skull were important, discussed pug-nosed people and their limitations, and spoke like black people were stupid.
