Perhaps this is a reason for the switch to 'public' and 'private' Watchtowers in the future. This one is clearly for the 'public'.
-Aude.
For Lurkers: Is the cover of the March 15th Watchtower deceptive?
by seek2find 40 Replies latest watchtower bible
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A Paduan
while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, and said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven."
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seek2find
Aude: That's what I was thinking. The study copy of the Watchtower will become another Kingdom Minstry type publication, that is not digestable by the public untill they become fully conditioned. seek2find
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seek2find
Are they showing people in the ancient robe atire? or are they wearing todays clothing?
The cover shows a group of nicely dressed modern day people from different culcural backgrounds looking slighty up and to their right. That's why I feel it's deceptive. If the picture would have been of people that were dressed in 1914 vintage clothing with beards and tophats and had they not been looking skyward, my impression would have been different. seek2find
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Cindi_67
I think it's deceptive because witnesses teach thatJesus already came in 1914. The article is talking about his comming to exucute the wicked and does not even mention 1914, but the photo and title on the cover would lead people to beleive that his comming is still in the future. Isn't this deceptive? seek2find
I don't want to create any controversy or sound like I am defending them, but as far as I can remember, and while I was still active, I remember learning that Christ was "present" (parousia = presence) not that he had already come in 1914, just that his kingdom was present and that he had sat down on his throne, awating the right moment to act. His coming entitles action against the "wicked". His presence entitles that he has been given the authority to reign and to gather up his "cabinet" or "helpers" meaning the 144,000, give time for humans to repent and then he will "come" in Armageddon to destroy the "goats".
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seek2find
I don't want to create any controversy or sound like I am defending them, but as far as I can remember, and while I was still active, I remember learning that Christ was "present" (parousia = presence) not that he had already come in 1914, just that his kingdom was present and that he had sat down on his throne, awating the right moment to act.
Beleive me, I don't want controversy either. Maybe the problem Is that I've never really understood the "Presence" thing. So let me ask how could someone be present without comming? Could I myself ever be in your presence unless I came to where you are? The society has said that he assumed kingship in 1914. How could he do so without comming to take seat on his throne? seek2find
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Cindi_67
Beleive me, I don't want controversy either. Maybe the problem Is that I've never really understood the "Presence" thing. So let me ask how could someone be present without comming? Could I myself ever be in your presence unless I came to where you are? The society has said that he assumed kingship in 1914. How could he do so without comming to take seat on his throne? seek2find
Let's see. Forgive me, I have forgotten how to "defend" my teachings. But I'll try. He became king in "1914". His presence was felt with WWI and everything else that has been happening since then. Satan was thrown down to earth, wreaking havoc. That is how he got to be present in his reign. His coming means he directs his attention to earth, even though it will not be visible, everybody will know that what is happening is divine in nature. He directly takes care of the wicked and destroys the unworthy.
Hey, this is a good exercise for me to remember those things. Keep it coming if you would, please. Let's see how far we can go. And to those reading, we are not debating or fighting over this, it's just that I would like to know how others think and if it's possible to prove it with what we have learned. I remember I was very good at "convincing" others about subjects like this. Let's see if we still have it, gang.
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Cindi_67
I don't subscribe to the Watchtower or Awake magazines anymore.
How long have you been out. Subscription were discontinued a few years ago.
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seek2find
Hey, this is a good exercise for me to remember those things. Keep it coming if you would, please. Let's see how far we can go.
OK Cindi, Here we go. Can you clarify this? If Jesus returned to heaven upon his Death didn't his "presence" in heaven begin at that time? And also hadn't he been present there before comming to Earth? If his "Presence"began with taking Kingship in 1914. Didn't he Come to the Throne at that time? Also Ps. 110:1 says "The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is:“Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet" If he assended the throne in 1914 according to this scripture wouldn't all his enemies have been removed at that time? seek2find
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truthsetsonefree
I think they are referring to the antitypical antitype of the past tense "coming" from the perspective of the future "coming". Therefore it is a statement that is technically accurate, yet misleading.
Like most everything else that they print....
tsof