Sorry if I offended anyone

BFD

I had posted this topic under a different screen name but the name was deemed offensive and removed from JWD. I have "re-instated" myself under this new name. If my old screen name offeneded anyone, please accept my apology. It was unintentional.

Any comments or thoughts will be much appreciated.

Thanks,

BFD

here's the post:

With the help of this discussion forum and the internet I can honestly admit to myself that the JWs do not have the truth. So now I know that God is not going to destroy me "really soon" and I am not spiritually dead even though I was DF'd in 1976. Being raised JW from the age of 5 with a zealous mother and un believing father was not easy. But, that's a whole other story.

The hurdle here is, even though the JW armegeddon obviously is not impending....

How long will it take mankind to obliterate ourselfs with WMDs? Is there an out?

Maybe I just can't get past the gloom.

BFD

Zico

Hi, and welcome to the board! Will mankind obliterate itself with WMDs? I don't know. Nobody knows, so you probably won't get a satisfactory answer. If it is going to happen, there'll be nothing you or I can do to stop it, and there's really not much point in worrying about something that's beyond your control.

mouthy

Since I didnt read that under another name -You did not offend me. But it is good you returned ... Keep posting my friend (hug)

OnTheWayOut

Welcome aboard. Zico has wisdom beyond his years. If WMD destroys us all, there is
really nothing you can do about it- unless you are in a position to become Sec. of State or
perhaps the sec. general of the UN. You could work for worldwide peace on your own
platform of what you think would be successful, but it could happen anyway. If it's really
bugging you (like Global warming bugs Albert Gore) then start researching and decide how
to get involved.

You can also live a normal life, and put it out of your imminent thoughts, because it may
never come. Enjoy life and career and family and stuff.

To just ponder over it is fine, but to live paralyzed in fear- no life at all.
Do one of the above suggestions.

Little Drummer Boy

How long will it take mankind to obliterate ourselfs with WMDs? Is there an out?
Maybe I just can't get past the gloom.

I have only been DA'd for a little while, but one of the most important realizations that has come to me since that time is that I have power. I have the power to change my own life for the better. I don't have to wait on the god of the bible to do it for me in some future paradise. As I work to restructure my life from the broken pieces that are post-wt society, I can finally see daylight and hope, where only before there was dispair. Eventually, as my life conditions continue to improve, I will not only be able to help myself and my family, but others as well.

So, you asked is there an out. I think that there is. Everybody has the ability to at least tryto improve his or her life and to hopefully help out others. If we, as a race, can get into that cycle of responsibility for our fellow man and for our planet, then we will have the out you are looking for. The minute that we give up though on improving the human condition, then we really have lost and it won't matter how our race dies - whether that is with wmd, global warming (assuming that it exits), depletion of all needed fuels that run society, etc. - it will all be just a matter of relative time at that point until we are doomed. And, if we, as a race, keep throwing our hands in the air and praying to the great jeheebus, allah, or whoever to save us, then we really are missing the mark.

We must save ourselves.

BFD

Z,

You're right, nobody know when or if it will happen. But the probablity that it will happen is what I cn't get past. I have lived my life in fear of the big A nad now I can't get past this hurdle. Do I just keep my head in the sand?

Mouthy,

I am so glad I did not offend you. Will you be my Grandma too?

OnTheWayOut

Do I just keep my head in the sand?

I used to be a practical pessimist. I was the guy who saw people as dreamers and
felt that they should be woken up. If a child wanted to be a movie star, I felt that I should
tell them virtually nobody makes it. If he wanted to be an athlete, same. I have learned to
moderate that feeling. The ones who do make it are the dreamers who work toward their
goals- they have a passion. If a child sees stardom in their future- I can tell them they need
to go to college to really get into pro athleticism- have a backup plan. If he wants to be in
movies, I can ask them if they are working on a practical way toward that goal, as it is unlikely
that the future Steven Spielberg will just walk up to them and say, "Be in my movie."

All that said, if you want to stay focused on something, then do something practical about it.
What is that practical thing? I don't know- you figure it out. Al Gore helped make a documentary and
continues to educate (don't start debating the subject he educates on- not the point).

I still say to enjoy life with this not in your imminent thinking, but as a former practical pessimist,
I say, "If you can't put this behind you, then do something." You can join groups that inform you
of what they think is the solution (watch out for cults) and form your own opinions. You can learn
at college or from books, you can start to form your plan. You can platform for political candidates
who have a plan.

If you just put it behind you, your head is not truly 'in the sand.' You just recognize that you are
one person with limited resources. You don't have your finger on the button, and need to live your life.

BFD

Thank you, OTWO for the good advice. ALl I can do is my best to make this world a bit kinder and safer. And thank goodness I don't have my finger on the button. Sometimes I get really pissed off and do stupid things.

BFD

jgnat

Maybe the society was right about one thing. Don't trust the media! Doom and gloom sells better than good news. Here's some alternative views to excite your grey matter. Let me know what you think.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0725-04.htm

http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/002596.html

http://www.pacificresearch.org/press/opd/2006/opd_06-05-05sp.html

Zico

Sometimes I get really pissed off and do stupid things.

I've never met anyone who doesn't BFD!

Sorry if I offended anyone

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