So, I just told my dad to "Shut the **** up"

by mavie 21 Replies latest jw friends

  • BFD
    BFD

    It is torture! The last time I spoke to my mom I called her an infidel and hung up. (1 Tim). They just push you to the point of no return. I am now in the process (again) of trying to get her to stop shunning the family. I have written two letters thus far but haven't sent either one and don't know if I will. You see, the shunning has been going on for about 5 years and I stopped trying to reach her about 3 years ago. The old scab got picked somehow and now I am trying again. I even thought of starting a bible study and then contacting her to say something like, "this doesn't even seem like the same religion it was in 1976 when I was DF'd". But, theres no way I could pull something like that off. I am sure I'd get the "new light" schpiel.

    BFD

  • Lumptard
    Lumptard

    Look on the bright side:

    It's better than if you shat in his coffee, right?

    Wish you the best in chitty times like this.

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    I absolutely refuse to be disrespected twice by the same person in the same lifetime. I've established and defended healthy boundaries and those boundaries are not negotiable, not ever.

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    It is very healthy to tell people off who have over-stepped their boundaries with you. Never feel guilty about this. The problem with the JWs and other cults is that they do not know what boundaries are. Someone should hand them a dictionary and they should look up the word to see what it means.

    Also, the JW experience leads people to believe they should keep forgiving over and over again. What happens is that the same abuser keeps on doing the same thing - over and over. That is, if you let them. It has to stop somewhere.

    LHG

  • new boy
    new boy

    If you do talk to him again, I would say........"Dad the different between you and me is that I can love and respect you.......even if you can't do the same for me.".........Don't call me again until you can."

  • anewme
    anewme

    Garybus has a system that works. Disrespect only escalates. I allowed my ex to get me so upset with his same righteous JW badgering that I slapped him and he called the police. They came, we talked. I was nearly charged with assault but he dropped the charges.

    I moved out IMMEDIATELY!


    I too know how people can push your buttons too far. It is a dangerous game.


    Do not have anything to do with someone who can make you so angry and crazy. They are not showing love nor are they being your true friend when they behave like that.


    ((((((Mavie))))))))



  • GoingGoingGone
    GoingGoingGone
    I absolutely refuse to be disrespected twice by the same person in the same lifetime. I've established and defended healthy boundaries and those boundaries are not negotiable, not ever.

    I swear, garybuss, at some point I'm going through your posts, pick out all of these kinds of comments , and compile them into one document which I will then call "garybuss's Words of Wisdom", to be read whenever I feel it's ok for JWs to treat me like crap!

    ((((((((((Mavie))))))))

    GGG

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    For me at 18 or 20 years old, I didn't have the maturity or the tools to even identify all of the forms of manipulation or abuse, let alone set boundaries. My deprived education and my life inside the hermetically sealed Watch Tower Society only let me see and reply to an established pattern of injury and recovery.

    At about age 30 I started to look outside of the box but I still couldn't see that many of my friends and most of my relatives living inside of the culture were directly contributing to my living challenges.

    I quit my night bakery job in 1974 at age 30 and I reasoned that if Armageddon came in 1975 then that would be my death sentence and I'd accept that as unchangeable by me. Inversely, I reasoned that if Armageddon didn't come in 1975, I'd chart a new life course. It didn't, and I did.

    Unfortunately, I'd packed the kit of bad living tools that I had acquired during my time with the Witnesses from age 7 until age 30, and I tried to live using those flawed tools. I didn't even realize my living tools were flawed. At about age 46, I started to look within.

    My personal recovery was largely accomplished by facing every single fear I had on the planet and after every confrontation, there was a boundary established and a principle written down. Piece by piece, I got a new tool kit.

    The one and two liners I throw out are from my living took kit. The top tool is : "All my bad deals start and end on the same day." and Number two is: "My best deals in life are the bad deals I got out of.".

    Confronting my fears and my delusions has been hard. It's not for a person who favors pain avoidance or is lazy. It was hard work, and it hurts. Early on I didn't know I was supposed to grieve. Now after a loss, I take time to grieve. I give myself a minimum of three days and a maximum unvisited period of grief of three years. There's no loss like the loss of a favorite delusion. Like my son says, sacred cows make the best burger.

  • mama1119
    mama1119

    ((((Mavie))))..I am so sorry..I know how close you are to your parents. I hope one day they can accept your decision without conditions....

  • Borgia
    Borgia

    Mavie,

    With me although it was a spur of the moment response, the ultimate descision to do so, had long been cooking. It's been 4 years now since I disowned the ole man and I must say I don't miss him.

    so, Good for you. Be happy.

    Cheers

    Borgia

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