Would you have followed Jesus

by JH 48 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • 5go
    5go

    5go with all due respect in your post you claimed

    Science cannot repeat a nut in a labratory, they cannot reproduce from scratch a seed that will grow as its own that can reproduce with all the characteristics of the tree, do it from nothing as they claim evolution did.

    But we know where the seed came from because of science. Not god, By the way plants came before seeds evolved. A better analogy would be eggs and chickens. The egg came first.

    I am not Christ nor I proclaim to pocess the power of God

    With the faith the size of a mustard seed you should be alble to move mountain. Hell Paul raised the dead and he never saw the Christ in the flesh why can it be repeated to today. Why did myth beliveing peoiple of two thousand years ago get this treat, but we don't.

    Sorry but I don't need your permission to credit Christ with what he did, it is my own free will as you have your own to do as you please.

    I am saying if by miracle you heal me I will let you claim divine help. And it would take a miracle.

    If others who were healed didnt credit him what makes you believe that you would?

    Luke 17:17 Jesus asked, “Didn’t I heal ten men? Where are the other nine?

    Respectfully,

    But you can't do it to find out so there. So much for the good samaritan principle. I would help you if you still believed in christ despite the miracle proving you wrong.

  • 5go
    5go
    would i get a cameo appearence in mel gibsons the passion of the christ? and who would play me? toby maguire? vin diesil?

    I would want vin diesil. That exudes BAD ASS !!!!!

  • avidbiblereader
    avidbiblereader

    5go, the nice thing about the forum is it allows us to be vocal on beliefs that we have, in looking back on your post

    But we know where the seed came from because of science. Not god, By the way plants came before seeds evolved. A better analogy would be eggs and chickens. The egg came first.

    Evidence is that we know very little and usually the older we get the more we understand this. I for one will chose to profess my allegance and worship to God, who I cannot see, but just because I cannot see him, does not mean that he doesn't exist anymore than not seeing the wind proves that it doesn't exist. I will chose my God, you can choose your Bunsen Burner and the Elements Chart.

    With the faith the size of a mustard seed you should be alble to move mountain. Hell Paul raised the dead and he never saw the Christ in the flesh why can it be repeated to today. Why did myth beliveing peoiple of two thousand years ago get this treat, but we don't

    We were already told in the scriptures that many of the gifts that you mentioned would be done away with after the establishment of the Christian Congregatioin as evidence that the Jews had lost favorered nation status and as proof that God's blessing was with the Chirstians. Reminds me of Christ's words that people are always looking for a sign, and even when they see it unless it suits their own preferences they still won't accept it. That is why he said about John and himself, he came not eating and drinking, Christ did, two different results and the bottom line is that you cannot please everyone no matter what you do. Perhaps that is what is meant "faith is not a possession of everyone", or maybe my faith is not as big as it should be, one thing for sure time will tell. But then again as James said in ch 1, if you don't believe you will recieve something, then you won't. I guess we live up to our potential in many ways, but our potential starts with our mind and heart.

    But you can't do it to find out so there.

    I don't even know what to say to this?

    Just wishing you the best though my fellow poster, I don't know what ails you but I wish it didn't and that you were healthy. Have a great week 5go, take care and look forward to your posts and threads.

    abr

  • 5go
    5go

    5go, the nice thing about the forum is it allows us to be vocal on beliefs that we have, in looking back on your post.

    Evidence is that we know very little and usually the older we get the more we understand this. I for one will chose to profess my allegance and worship to God, who I cannot see, but just because I cannot see him, does not mean that he doesn't exist anymore than not seeing the wind proves that it doesn't exist. I will chose my God, you can choose your Bunsen Burner and the Elements Chart.

    Ah I remember those days when I used that eaxct same arguement too! You have to prove something, I don't have to disprove it till then.

    We were already told in the scriptures that many of the gifts that you mentioned would be done away with after the establishment of the Christian Congregatioin as evidence that the Jews had lost favorered nation status and as proof that God's blessing was with the Chirstians. Reminds me of Christ's words that people are always looking for a sign, and even when they see it unless it suits their own preferences they still won't accept it. That is why he said about John and himself, he came not eating and drinking, Christ did, two different results and the bottom line is that you cannot please everyone no matter what you do. Perhaps that is what is meant "faith is not a possession of everyone", or maybe my faith is not as big as it should be, one thing for sure time will tell. But then again as James said in ch 1, if you don't believe you will recieve something, then you won't. I guess we live up to our potential in many ways, but our potential starts with our mind and hear.

    From the same scriptures that tell you to kill your enemies babies by throwing them on the rocks. How loving Jesus really is.

    The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords." (Hosea 13:16 NLT)

    "O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."
    (Psalms 137:8-9, KJV)

    Funny, they would tell you not to believe people that would tell you that they don't believe in these people just because the wrote something a couple thousand years ago, and claimed god told them to do it. Then leave no proof to other the the book they wrote.

    There was a skit on a talk show it was about the 500 club and the had a guest on who was fighting to get the creation acount tought in schools thing was he was an native american and he recited his tribes creation acount. The 500 club member ridicled him saying his account couldn't be true but he gave the exact same proof they had a book with his tribes story in it. They couldn't argue with it so they threw him off. It was a joke skit but you had to wonder if they would really do that.

    I don't even know what to say to this?

    Just wishing you the best though my fellow poster, I don't know what ails you but I wish it didn't and that you were healthy. Have a great week 5go, take care and look forward to your posts and threads.

    abr

    I do yours as well. The 5 that is go

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    If he was indeed able to perform miracles to help the afflicted then he would be worth following, as the Apostles said "where else can we go".

  • 5go
    5go

    maybe satan !

  • anewme
    anewme

    Most likely.

    I would have hung around to hear more what he had to say.

    It was a big deal for a Jew to listen to someone other than their rabbis.

    But the people were hungry for a more personal relationship with God and they were looked down upon by the religious leaders.

    Jesus spoke like no other person they had ever heard before.

    He opened their minds and hearts wide to understand Mosaic scripture and its true meaning.

    He offered them a new hope of friendship with God and forgiveness for their sins and freedom from the oppressive Law.


    Sure, I would have stayed and listened.


    Anewme

  • ninja
    ninja

    Yes...to the death...I have never stopped believing in God ...only his so-called representatives

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    In my starry-eyed early convert days, I would have said the answer is YES, YES, YES. Most days, I feel like the healed leper who remembered to come back to say thanks.

    But just now, as I imagined myself as a no-nonsense Jewish domestic, ruling a household of servants, I probably would have waited for the furor to die down. Who wants to follow a fanatic? Why follow the crowd? Be sure first. I'd probably start investigating the death at Golgoth...no, scratch that, at Penteco...no, at Stephen's martyrdom. THEN the evidence would have piled up too high for me to ignore.

  • anewme
    anewme

    Likely though after Jesus died I would have left the scene too.

    He was the inspiration, not his apostles.

    I would definitely have left the congregation after reading John's letter called Revelation!



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