I say:
how's david?
She says:
good good
I say:
still studying?
She says:
he's visiting his sis this weekend so i dont get to talk to him
She says:
he was never studying
I say:
oh
I say:
i thought he was or something
She says:
unfortunately
She says:
nah
She says:
he went to 2 meetings and read some of the bible teach book
I say:
what was his response?
She says:
he doesnt like the teaching that jesus is micheal
She says:
is hates the idea of not being able to have facial hair
She says:
and thinks disfellowshipping is judgemental
I say:
what do you think about the teaching that jesus is michael?
She says:
makes sense to me
She says:
well some times i get confused but i dunno
I say:
so is he under the impression that if he gets baptized and DOESN'T shave his beard, then he will be destroyed at Armageddon?
I say:
or has somebody made him think that?
She says:
could he get baptized if he didnt shave
I say:
i don't know tbh
I say:
i don't think so lol
She says:
we've never talked about destruction at armeggedon
She says:
i dont think so either
She says:
because im pretty sure shortly after my dad shaved his beard he was baptized
I say:
well with things like facial hair, i think to myself, "its either wrong in Jehovah's eyes or not"
She says:
my dad explained well
She says:
it well
I say:
and since all of God's chosen people of Israel wore beards, and evidence shows that Jesus even wore one...i don't know
She says:
but we dont live at that time
She says:
most of society makes bears iffy
She says:
beards
I say:
but does Jehovah change?
I say:
i'm not asking does the watchtower society change?
She says:
i mean society as in the world
I say:
because if Jehovah changes, then i can see where beards could be off limits
I say:
i know
She says:
no because the SECOND the new system comes, everyone will be growing beards
I say:
so does it really make sense?
I say:
see, its either wrong or it isn't
I say:
neatly trimmed beards are worn by respectable people all the same
She says:
yes because its from the faithful and discreet slave that jehovah appointed over his belongings
She says:
or whatever the scripture says lol
She says:
but then whos to say whats neatly trimed and whats not
I say:
haha you make me laugh
She says:
why
She says:
and i make myself laugh
I say:
"or whatever the scripture says lol"
She says:
lol
I say:
because we also have to remember how Jesus spoke of those who would teach "commands of men" as doctrines that didn't hold true to his teachings
She says:
i dont think of it as a doctrine
I say:
its treated as one
I say:
it carries consequences and so forth
She says:
all i know is i aint a guy so i dont worry about it
I say:
plus, the same brothers that condemn beards, used to condemn vaccinations...but now they say its ok to have them
She says:
vaccinations>
She says:
they very well could say beards are ok
I say:
ROFL
I say:
are you being serious?
She says:
BUT if we submit to it arent we showing our humility and all that jazz
She says:
some bro said something like that
She says:
i wasnt really paying attn
She says:
hes quite boring
I say:
yeah
She says:
it wasnt a talk btw lol
I say:
it seems that you don't really check into all this stuff, you just kinda accept it and say, "hmm ok works for me" LOLOL
She says:
pretty much
I say:
well alright
She says:
if it doesnt bother my conscience im a ok
I say:
but if your conscience has been molded by inaccurate things, it won't be attuned to what the Scriptures actually say about it
I say:
its like taking a trip and saying, "I'm just gonna go by this compass no matter what it says"....but then the whole time, you unknowingly had a magnet under the compass so you weren't getting a correct reading...even though it FELT right, doesn't mean that it actually was
She says:
i dunno what to say so ima just agree
I say:
lol
I say:
hey speaking of michael, though
I say:
did you know that daniel 10:13 doesn't say that Michael = Jesus, but just says that Michael was "one of the foremost princes". Then at Reveleation 19:16, Jesus is referred to as "King of Kings"??
I say:
so doesn't a King > Prince ????
I say:
puzzling
She says:
hmm
She says:
well no where does it say micheal = jesus
I say:
i know
I say:
and michael is only mentioned in the Bible 5 times
I say:
never as Jesus
She says:
micheal isnt mentioned in revelation right
She says:
i cant remember
She says:
actually ill look it up
I say:
i'm not sure
She says:
yea
She says:
the war in heaven, at 12:7
I say:
ah ok
I say:
but Jesus is mentioned in Revelation, too
She says:
now that scripture doesnt make sense
I say:
i know
She says:
because in the same passage it mentions christ
I say:
yep
She says:
interesante
She says:
isnt the only reason that its believed they are the same, is that there arent two armies of angels
She says:
and both christ and micheal are spoken of having an army
I say:
nope
She says:
what u mean nope
I say:
we KNOW there are many many armies of angels
She says:
wait wait wai
She says:
t
She says:
i gotta look it up because i swear i read that
I say:
haha
She says:
dont laugh at me homo
She says:
HAh
She says:
"since God's Word nowwhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels- one headed by Micheal and one headed by Jesus- it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other then jesus Christ in his heavenly role"
I say:
but the word is plural in the scriptures
I say:
and in the Greek
She says:
what word
I say:
for armies
She says:
where?
I say:
all through the book of revelation when it describes armageddon and the heavenly forces being led
She says:
yea i know, ive seen armies of angels lol
I say:
so it doesn't make much sense
She says:
well we'll find out one day
I say:
ROFL
She says:
lol