JW told us: Actually only 800 Annointed left!!

by Lady Liberty 42 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Zico

  I wonder how many of the rank and file even notice the official count and the change over the years. While the WTS prints the previous year's number of average publishers they do not do the same with the anointed count. A JW would have to go back and look it up. That is one increase the don't publicize in the stats study article.

  Not many. When I mentioned in the book study that the number had gone up by over 200 some people actually gasped. Now, if they ever reach 9000, that will cause a big deal, because then people will notice. Of course, the reverse is also true, in that, if the Society somehow managed to get it below 8000 it would cause a lot of excitement.
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  James Free

  The May 1 WT says a partaker is not to be judged. What it avoids saying is that the local body of elders decides who to count. I fthey don't think the person could qualify, they don't count them - yep, they judge! The numbers printed over the years have NEVER been accurate - just go there and partake - see if you get counted!
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  sir82

  Clearly that person has not read the May 1 Watchtower!

  The idea of there being a greatly reduced number of "real anointed" has been around for a long time - I heard it 15 years ago, at least.

  It was a common method to try to justify the steady, sometimes-increasing number of Memorial partakers in the past 20 years, with the idea that the "heavenly call" ended in 1935. "Well sure, there might have been 8500 partakers each year for the past 20 years, but most of them are fakes - the genuine anointed, those baptized before 1935, are actually much fewer in number!"

  That term, "genuine anointed", even made it into several Watchtower study articles over the past decade.

  Now, with the May 1 Watchtower officially pitching the "1935 cutoff date", there is no need for this mental contortion - there is no need to try to justify "new no additions since 1935" with "the number of these aged anointed never seems to decrease".

  It would be interesting to reply to this "source" by reading the QFR form the May WT, and see their reaction.
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  Lo-ru-hamah

  My mom and I were discussing this the other night. We added up all of the anointed that we have known in different congretations and others that we have met. We came up with knowing about 40 anointed. We then figured that we had met 6000 different witnesses. The percentage worked out that .675% of the witnesses we knew were anointed. If then you calculate that number to work out you can figure that approximately 40,500 of the 6,000,000 witnesses partake.

  Of course this is supposition, and maybe my math is wrong (?), but it seems awfully odd that there are so many that just two average witnesses know. I think that they (the Watchtower) greatly deflate the number of partakers.

  Loruhamah
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  zack

  The WT is always qualifying things:

  GENUINE Annointed

  GENUINE Christians

  GENUINE Repentance

  GENUINE Service

  Basically,something is only "GENUINE" if THEY say it is.

  It's all so silly.
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  OnTheWayOut

  the local body of elders decides who to count.

  Yet the anointed of the Governing Body don't judge.

  They allow "other sheep" who are not anointed to judge. I have given Memorial talks and
  I have been a server. We were told to count only those who partake of both the wine and the bread.
  Throw out any count of those who didn't partake of both, then only count baptized JW's and throw out
  any count of visitors that are, for a fact, not JW's. What a joke. In all the years as someone who would
  have to count official "partakers," I never counted any either way. No partakers among those I served, but
  occasionally, some other server had to count or discount somebody in the same meeting.

  Blondie commented that the average JW doesn't notice the number of partakers going slightly up or staying
  the same. For the most part, that's true, but let that number go way down or way up, then they'll notice.
  Even though most don't notice, there are enough available to point it out. Sooner or later, the Borg had to
  address this.
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  greendawn

  This whole anointed issue is such a mess intentionally muddied by the GB. What the dubs should ask first of all what is an anointed person. And then compare them with the GB members. No one gets a heavenly calling without reaching a certain level of excellence first or attaining it after such a calling. Being anointed means being a saint and the GB are obviously not such ones (to use one of their favourite expressions, such ones) whereas many other dubs are so they are fogging the whole issue. Otherwise there are numerous verses that clarify to us what being a saint means. This is more important than their numbers.
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  M.J.

  How could anyone come up with any number and pass it off as anything but a wild guess?
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  done4good

  I'm wondering if that 800 was actually a typo that became misinformation passed on, considering that the number usually hovers right around 8000.

  That's how it immdiately struck me.

  j
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  heathen

  I think it is riddiculous to even bother counting . The whole ceremony is pointless when you have people that just pass the emblems around claiming they aren't worthy of the free gift . There's nothing in the bible says you have to go and do that . It says only go if you are going to eat and drink in the apostle Paul writings on the matter . At least one night a year all those holier than thou types show that they aren't any more special than anybody else .