by fairchild 18 Replies latest jw friends
Yep I got invited to the memorial and I'm not sure what to do.. last year they didn't even bother inviting me but the year before I went although I brought my own bread and ate it during the memorial.
This year I really don't know what to do but I'm leaning towards going. Anyone else?
I am going because of my family and I like to see some people again.
Yup, got one too!!
Not personally, but when I went out this morning (slept in, until 11) there it was, stuffed under my doormat. At first I thought it was an Awake or maybe a WT. Then I pulled it out and found it was a single sheet tract thingy. (I'm still used to thinking in terms of 50's style stuff; too many changes sicne I left in the 70's I suppose)
I noticed that they were pulling out the stops and using a large local hotel meeting room. This is a real effort to invite the real "public" I guess...unless...
I don't know if there are still any around who remember that I may have been one once. It could be that it was meant for me and not just spread across the neighborhood. I've had so many roommates and was gone for about a year; so I figured that they would have lost track of me. I didn't check to see if anyone else got one on the block.
Anybody know if they are plastering neighborhoods with the invites, wholesale fashion?
Mustang
I've received my invitation too. I am surprised at how "mainstream" it seems. The front page could be any religion - except for the date as it's not Easter. So I guess it may appeal to some members of the public.
I've heard that although it is being offered to the public, they mainly want to target those who have associated in the past.
I haven't been for the last few years and definitely won't be going this time either.
Ya, I'm going.....partly for my parents, but also to see if the talk mentions Jesus any more than it has in the last 3 or 4 years. Wonder what everyone would do if I took the bread and wine this year?
On a funny note, the "Memorial Invitation" that I doctored on here the other day is apparently circulating far and wide. Mouthy's been getting emails from other ex-Witnesses in the States and England with it as an attachment. ROFLMAO!!!
May you have peace!
Please go. As for what to do, please see the following link:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/130938/1.ashx
May the undeserved kindness and mercy of my God and Father, the Most Holy One of Israel, whose name is JAH of Armies, and the peace of His Son and Christ, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, be upon you, if you so wish it.
Your servant and a slave of Christ,
SJ
I wouldn't bother going it is such a waste of time, those that participate are treated by the GB just like those that don't, many younger partakers are accused of being impostors or worse and most dubs show that they are shut off from the New Covenent and therefore lost. It is like the black mass of the sorcerors and the free masons.
It is such a bizarre situation, the Memorial.
If I remember correctly, Jesus said to 'Keep doing this in rememberance of me' and he meant they were to pass along and eat and drink the bread and the wine.
He DID NOT say to pass the bread and wine to the end of the row and then pass it back again which is EXACTLY what the JWs do. Do you think they may have misunderstood the instructions?
We got our normally timely invite, as well. It ended up in the same place as the rest of them. Care to guess where that is?
[AGuest: please consider the following. You can play to their pseudo-spiritual side, but I'll stick to their pharisaical legalistic angle. It is very interesting that you used the word RATIFY. For that very word, I cannot and will not go.
BTW, I've been down your path. I wrote this for a general comment, but have included some items directed to you.]
I actually had a fleeting thought about going, but rapidly regained sanity and decided against it.
I have a deep seated reason for not going: I will not compromise my exit.
What does this mean?
I left in 1974; yes, that is right, BEFORE 1975. I rolled the dice and said that it was #$%^&* balderdash 32 years ago. And I left on the eve of the GREAT PROPHECY, at that.
But in doing so, I also left BEFORE the Baptismal Vows were changed in the early 80's. Therefore, I did not RATIFY the changes.
RATIFY? We have been over that before, discussing Pre-Majority Baptism (as contrasted with Infant Baptism). Ratification is a legal doctrine: it is the endorsement of a change to an old stated matter or the acceptance of a new matter when presented. [AGuest is using this principle in her dissertation.]
It is a dirty trick of the legalistic mind that ratification can occur inadvertently when one is NOT FULLY INFORMED. In this instance, SILENCE IS ASSENT.
[Credit Card companies do this when they inform you of a rate change in fine print: few people read it all and bother to try to understand it; yet when they use the card again, after the stated date, the new rate goes into effect.]
I was baptized (under Age of Majority) under the old Baptismal Vows: as my brother once stated, they are essentially a non-denominational, generic CHRISTIAN set of Vows.
Those older vows do not PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BROOKLYN, a publishing company or any specific earthly organization , especially a church of organized religion.
And that is the way I intend to keep it. If I set foot in a KH, it would violate that record of staying clean from the newly contaminated and enforced self-realization from Brooklyn: that they had screwed up and didn't close the loophole (likely from CTR's day) that dedicated JW's to a generic religion.
(I briefly considered that it wasn't in a KH, but a publicly rented hall; that still doesn't change things and is only a trap.)
Yes, in the 1980's that closed that loophole. I will not assist them and finally close it from my end. To set foot in their domain would do so for me.
And I don't need to go up to the temple of false prophets to affirm anything.
This reminds me of the "alternate arrangements" set up by the king of the northern kingdom of Israel to keep the 10 tribes from consorting with the 2 tribe kingdom of Israel in worship.
Don't contaminate yourself. But if you went to meetings or otherwise participated after the early 80's this doesn't apply to you; so you may "do as is good in your own eyes".
BTW, there is nothing of worth offered at that place.
Mustang (of the "maintaining his integrity" Class)
