Altering reality where do you stand...... (page 2)

greendawn

I enjoy alcohol from time to time wine, beer, spirits in cocktails above all cream liqueurs, but cigarettes and drugs I believe are not worth it. People need escapism that's why there is a strong entertainment industry everywhere. Daily human existence is too confined, easily becomes monotonous and has to be relieved with some excitement.

frankiespeakin

I don't drink very much, but when I first left did smoke pot quite heavily, but found that boring after a while, perhaps it was a form of self medication.

I found this to be true in my case to cure addictions: give a addict as much as he wants, until he don't want any more. In my case I smoked as much as a wanted and then on purpose smoked even more than i wanted and then i didn't want it any more.

I also took ayahuasca which I think is a very good medicine for curing addictions, it is not an easy medication to take but after a few heavy trips and purges I found my self better able to deal with my problems with out self medication.

fifi40

Linda

Hope things are going well for you. I usually am moderate, but when I first got with my now husband the social life I became involved in was pretty excessive. Whilst we dont drink at home on a day to day basis, social events were all about loads of alcohol. My hubby is a Scot and whilst I do not tar all with the same brush, he has on occasion tried to prove he can drink for Scotland. At first I tried to be 'the same' but as well as making me feel ill ill ill for about two days after, I have also realised that any problems/arguments we have are usually due to excess and that he could become a nasty person when drunk, which he is usually not. A couple of weeks ago things came to a head, when after a drinking session at the pub (I had left at about 9.30pm) things got particularly horrible and ugly. In light of those events it has made him take stock of his drinking habits (I cant go into detail because they were pretty horrid and I would need to explain all the people involved). But the other day he actually asked me if I thought he had a drink problem and if I thought he went out with the intent of getting obliterated, to which I answered "Yes, its like abandonment of yourself". He like others within our social group dont seem to have a cut off point where they recognise that they have had enough and thats when problems arise. Having been on the receiving end of the resulting mayhem and upset once to often I am now of the opinion that I dont want this in my life anymore. It is not an ultimatum to him, but its just that I dont really want to be around people who abuse other people in whatever form, because they have lost hold of self, sense and reality. The good news is that he does seemed to have realised the impact and potential consequences excess drinking can present, so I am fingers crossed that the events of that night have been enough to open his eyes.

The reason I posted this thread is because I chose to leave the pub at about 9.30 and asked him to come with me (he had been in the pub since 4.30 and was quite worse for wear).He didnt want to leave and stayed. The reason I chose to leave is because I had had enough and wanted to get away from whats was fast becoming an over indulgent session and there were things taking place I wasnt happy about. If I had been willing to go with the flow and switched to water or coke and been tolerant of those getting wasted, things would have turned out differently that night but I chose to go because I wasnt comfortable with it. And yet I see couples who are quite happy in each others company getting rat arsed and ridiculous. For me I cant find the fun in it and I dont really think there is any!!!

fifi40

Sad Emo thanks for your reply - I often wonder if my early life experience of my mum, has coloured my view of what for some is innocent over indulgence, but experience has shown me whilst nobody ever sets out to upset somebody else through excess drinking it often results in problems.

Fi

fifi40

Terry - Does this make me a cabbage or a king?

I love most of your answers on subjects - you are as always a cool dude!!!

fifi40

Found My Way - you stand no chance with my lot then....... Hic lol

But I have to say I am agreeing with you.

fifi40

Anti christ - What did God have to say.....

crazyblondeb

At one time.....I thought I had to "alter my reality" to function. I didn't know how to stop, and frankly, didn't want to!! It was about learning to deal with me, and coming to terms with myself. I don't know exactly when, but after I did....I don't HAVE to alter my perception anymore. Not that I don't WANT to from time to time!!

fifi40

Myelaine ????? Not sure I am with you, humble apologies

Freedom Fighter

Very interesting topic. Speaking personally, I don't like to get drunk and have never taken any kind of drug. I have reasoned it's because I don't like not being in control of what I am doing or saying. On previous occasions when I have had a wee bit too much I have reflected on my behaviour and really made myself cringe.

I don't enjoy the lack of control and I don't see the attraction of drinking until you feel unwell, what's the point of having a good night out if you feel nauseous for most of it? I also think a lot of it is cultural - without generalising, in the UK getting drunk or drugged out your head can be seen as a badge of honour, therefore many people, especially teens, do this in order to feel accepted.

I am also fortunate that I don't need a drink to help in social situations, but I can understand why some people find this works for them. As has been mentioned earlier, sensible use is important so that you don't store up health problems in the future.

FF

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