This is the man who made it all happen!

by Terry 90 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Ironically Smyth also had a stone Pyramid monument placed at his grave site just as C Russell.


    So one can see that Russell was influenced by various ideologies, William Miller may have played partial responsibility in the religious movement he started but there were more to be sure. The second coming of Christ and the dispensational dating era such as the end of the Gentile times and so forth was not originally his own concept, C T Russell extrapolated these ideologies from others, notably C. Symth and N. Barbour.

    Dispensational Premillennialism: The Dispensationalist EraHow a once-mocked idea began its domination of the evangelical world.Timothy Weber | posted 1/01/1999 12:00AM
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    Since the Bible clearly contained passages on the apocalyptic return of Jesus, it should be good enough for Christians in modern times.

    Third, premillennialism also followed the overt supernaturalism of the evangelical tradition. While liberals were uneasy about such a supernatural worldview, dispensationalism's affirmation of the supernatural was just the thing many Protestants were looking for. Instead of placing God within the historical or evolutionary process, premillennialists still believed in a God who stood outside history and intended to intervene in it—soon.

    For better or worse?

    By the end of the nineteenth century, premillennialism looked much more believable than postmillennialism. In the eyes of most people, recent events signaled worse times—not better.

    Howard Pope, the superintendent of men at Moody Bible Institute, was trained as a postmillennialist at Yale. But his study of missions and world population growth convinced him that the world was not being converted to Christ, as he had been taught to expect. So he "converted to the premillennial view as quickly as Saul was converted to Christ," he said.

    Other former postmillennialists said the same thing. It was becoming harder and harder to read the morning newspaper and believe that the Millennium was right around the corner. What looked inevitable in the 1830s—the Christianization of the nation and the world through the success of revivals and reform—no longer seemed possible, short of some miraculous intervention of Jesus himself.

    Premillennialists made much of the current problems of society and interpreted them as "signs of the times." Political corruption, pornography, alcohol abuse, the rise of monopolies, labor unrest, the desecration of the Lord's Day by immigrants, worldliness in the church, liberal theology, international conflicts, forest fires, earthquakes, revivals, the rise of cults like Christian Science and Millennial Dawnism (Jehovah's Witnesses), polio and influenza epidemics, changing weather patterns, the rise of Zionism, the sinking of the Titanic, the partitioning of Europe after World War I, radio—these and countless other events and trends were seen as proof that premillennialism was correct and the end of the age was rapidly approaching. Eventually, even its detractors realized that premillennialism seemed plausible.

    Still, premillennialism's rise cannot be explained on merely "environmental" grounds. There can be no adequate explanation that does not take into account how the movement sought to maintain important elements from the earlier evangelical tradition.

  • sloppyjoe2
    sloppyjoe2
    The scary part about William Miller is that the Seventh Day Adventist still use the year 1844 as significant prophetic year according to their beliefs. Even after all of this they now have 18 million members. 1914 will be significant forever for JWs now matter how far away we get from that year.
  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    What these second Adventists preachers didn't do is adhere to Christ's own admonishment of his true followers to not make a set time upon god's own sacred time, including William Miller, C T Russell and the Jehovah's Witnesses under J Rutherford but I suppose if they had done that they wouldn't have had their own literature to sell and self promote.

  • SimonSays
    SimonSays


    You have the last word.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    What is clear though is that C T Russell definitely made the standards from which the Jehovah's Witnesses originate their core theological beliefs from ie. 1914 The assertion that mankind is now living in the prophetic the last days (End Times) and that Christ took position of his heavenly throne first in 1874 then 1914 and choose the WTS. (1919) as its guiding mouth pieces to all mankind, theologically came from C T Russell, there is no denying that.

    The titling of the Awake and Watchtower magazines have their own entailing relevance to those expressed doctrines.

    The biggest Achilles Heel the WTS ever had was that it never had academically trained bible theologians as its head editorial writers. The first one (C Russell) was a professional clothing store owner and the one to follow him was a professional lawyer and the list goes on toward the men that followed those men, who were essentially trained in bible theology from those first positional men.

  • TerryWalstrom
    TerryWalstrom

    Nobody has the courage to scream, "STOP THE MADNESS!"

    Why?

    Because, since the time of Martin Luther, the use of of your friendly household Bible has caused most of the problems.

    Give an encyclopedia of medical procedures to an amateur and see what you end up with.

    The same is true of giving a very old book purported to have spooky supernatural origins to gullible amateurs and see what transpires. (Hint: 40+ thousand different denominations!)

    The self-centeredness of Christians in every century is phenomenal!

    Every single generation has completely owned the idea the Bible's END TIMES apocalypticism applies TO THEM.

    It is always THIS generation.

    Nothing short of Narcisisstic.

  • lepavoux
    lepavoux

    This is how Jehovah's Witnesses began not with Charles Russell but with William Miller.

    It looks like they will end up the same as Miller.

  • LV101
    LV101

    Sooner the better - re/Miller's destiny. There's no business like show business a/k/a religion.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Interesting too is that Miller traveled about giving public talks propagating the return of Christ in 1844 and then after sold his book to " Newly Interested Ones " .

    Nothing like stirring up the human imagination of people when you start talking about the return of Christ and how he was going to change the world for humanity.

    The WTS has known that for over 140 years for it has been selling and promoting this concept through its published literature for over that time span .

  • resolute Bandicoot
    resolute Bandicoot

    Thanks for that Terry.

    RB

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