Wanted: Outrageous WT Qotes

by Gerard 19 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Gerard
    Gerard

    I post regularly in an international web-based group regarding the sport I do. One of the group members is a JW and always signs his posts with: "That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth. -Psalms 83:18"

    I kindly asked him three times to stop his preaching in our sports forum but he persists. The moderator is afraid to interfere and ban him as it could get back at him as religious intolerance. So I've started to include my own "signature" at the end of each post I do: I copy/paste quotes of WEIRD JW beliefs and statements, past and present. I change my "signature on every post. The forum membership is neutral at this point.

    Would you please help and post here some outrageous WT quotes? Keep in mind the audience is not religious oriented and have no detailed Biblical knowledge.

    Thanks,

    Gerard

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    *** w57 6/15 p. 370 par. 7 Overseers of Jehovah’s People ***

    It is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the “slave” as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision.

  • jeanV
  • jeanV
    jeanV

    my previous post was about misquotes.
    www.reexamine.org has plenty of quotes.

    some good ones:
    w91 12/1 p. 7 Is Any Religion Good Enough?
    A religion that teaches lies cannot be true.

    ts chap. 5 p. 46 What Is This Thing Called “Soul”?
    Knowing these things, what will you do? It is obvious that the true God, who is himself “the God of truth” and who hates lies, will not look with favor on persons who cling to organizations that teach falsehood. (Psalm 31:5; Proverbs 6:16-19; Revelation 21:8) And, really, would you want to be even associated with a religion that had not been honest with you?

    then add a typical flip flop.

  • dedpoet
    dedpoet

    Here are a few quotes by Hayden Covington during a court case in Scotland in 1954,

    There is every reason for a change in interpretation as we view it, of the Bible. Our view becomes more clear as we see the prophesy fulfilled by time.

    we have always striven to see that we have the truth before we utter it. We go on the very best information we have but we cannot wait until we get perfect, because if we wait until we get perfect we would never be able to speak.

    Unity at all costs, because we believe and are sure that Jehovah God is using our organisation, the governing body of our organisation to direct it, even though mistakes are made from time to time.
    It makes one wonder who they were attributing the mistakes to here - the watchtower or jehovah?

    Fred Franz, on the wts authority in interpreting the bible

    They submit the Bible or the statements that are therein made, and the individual examines the statement and then the Scripture to see that the statement is Scripturally supported.

    The full article is here
    http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/false_prophecy_admitted.html
    And the watchtower admitted to false prophecy during this trial, something they never do nowadays. I hope it helps

    dedpoet

  • Vice
    Vice

    This is one of the JW's favorite language experts they like to quote in favor of the poor translation of the NWT!

    Dr. BeDuhn makes note, "I am sure you are aware of historical objections to the (re)insertion of 'Jehovah'' into the (NWT) translation. Of course, no Greek Gospel manuscripts support this, but I will not quibble with you about that".

    • or use Php 2:9 "Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow," NIV (don't let him try and correct you and say there should be the word [other] 'in brackets' between every - name. They put brackets around it because they know it doesn't belong there. Just like in Col 1:16-17 they add [other] to try and lessen Jesus' divinity, but there is no Greek scripture anywhere that has this word "other" in it. It doesn't belong in there. They add a word and say it makes the reading smoother, when in actuality it alters the meaning.)
    • (New World Translation, 1950 ed., 1961 ed., 1970 ed.)
      Hebrews 1:6 says - "But when He again brings his First-born into the inhabited earth, he says: 'And let all God's angels WORSHIP him' ."

      (New World Translation, 1984 ed.)
      Hebrews 1:6 says - “But when he again brings his First-born into the inhabited earth, he says: ‘And let all God’s angels DO OBEISANCE TO him’.”
    • 1898 - "Question … Was he really worshipped, or is the translation faulty? Answer. Yes, we believe our Lord while on earth was really worshipped, and properly so … It was proper for our Lord to receive worship …" (Watchtower Reprints, July 15, 1898).
      (they stopped worshipping Jesus in the 1950's and say it is wrong to do so now. Doctrine flip flop. Light getting dimmer!)
    • The WatchTower says that the fall of Jerusalem was in 607 B.C. and conclude from that date that Jesus returned in 1914A.D. Any credible source will tell you that Jerusalem fell in 586 B.C.. The date 607 is needed for their prophesied return of Christ, in 1914. Way off! (This is known as false prophecy!)

    • Ask about the 2nd president "Judge" Rutherford deeding the "House of the Princes" to King David, Gedeon, Barak,and others in the TIME article of March 31, 1930, California Cults! (This is known as false prophecy!)

    • Ask about the founding president, Charles Taze Russell's Pyramid Theory! He used measurements of pyramid tunnel passage ways in inches to make prophecies. Not only were his measurements wrong, but the dates he mentioned came and passed without being fulfilled! (This is known as false prophecy!)

    • Make your signature - Isa 44:24 Jehovah says "I, Jehovah, am stretching out the heavens BY MYSELF, laying out the earth" Heb 1:10 Jesus laid the foundations of the earth itself, and the heavens are the works of His hands?

    • Use the NWT's terrible translation of Amos 4:11 "I caused an overthrow among you people, like God's overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah" is the utterance of Jehovah. So the WT has Two Gods?

    • You could always ask or post something about Johannes Greber being a spirit medium and the influence He had on current JW theology. Just type him in a search engine and you'll see.

    There are so many. I hope this helped a little. God Bless!

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    This may push the envelope a bit. But it definitely is "outrageous".

    "Weakly giving in to sexual desires by masturbation will certainly not give you strength when faced with a situation tempting you to commit fornication-or even homosexuality. Just the opposite, it cultivates wrong thinking and wrong desire. In fact, masturbation can lead into homosexuality."

    - Your Youth - Getting the Best Out of It, pg.37

  • Atlantis
    Atlantis

    It is advantageous of the demons that they get people to believe their form of theology. It prevents people from loving and worshiping the true God.

    The Golden Age , April 17, 1929, p. 469.

    Nevada-

  • penny2
    penny2
    six thousand years of human history end about the fall of 1975 C.E.

    WT 15 Jul 1967

  • garybuss
    garybuss


    "If any overzealous doctor condemns your tonsils go and commit
    suicide with a case-knife. It's cheaper and less painful." (Golden
    Age, April 7, 1926, p. 438)


    The Scriptures justify the "war strategy" of hiding true facts from the enemy.
    (The Watchtower May 15, 1960, p.295)


    "A religion that teaches lies cannot be true."
    (Watchtower, 12/1/91 p.7)

    Many who had hoped to be among the "millions"
    who would never die have indeed died.
    (The Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1995, p.9)



    "If you are one of the Jonadabs or one of the
    'great crowd' of good-will persons you will ?
    like to mingle with the animals"
    (The Watchtower, Jan. 15,1952 p.63-4)


    "Stop chewing food as you need the saliva for your food." ? The Golden
    Age, Nov. 12, 1929, p. 107.


    "Note: Reports have been received where elders have revealed confidential matters to their wives or others in the congregation." (Pay Attention 1977 p.65)


    "But domestic chickens also lay eggs for human consumption, and for this purpose a male bird is not needed."
    (Awake! Jan. 8, 1971, p.16)



    "Adherents of some religions are very sensitive
    about any attempts to convert them from their faith."
    Page 5 Par. 14 Our Kingdom Ministry
    WTBTS February 1998



    "Saying no to fornication and adultery seems to be especially difficult, even for some in the Christian congregation."
    (The Watchtower, October 1, 1999, p. 29)


    "They find it difficult to believe that we have the only true religion and that their form of worship is false."
    (Our Kingdom Ministry, May 1999, p. 2)



    True, at present we see some aspects of God's purpose "in hazy outline."
    The Watchtower March 15, 2000 p. 14


    "How delighted we are to see that the great crowd (that NO MAN was able to number)
    praising God now numbers some 6,000,000!" The Watchtower May 15, 2001p. 13


    Our Kingdom Ministry June, 2004 p. 3 Announcements
    In order to ensure the security of the Kingdom Hall, the last person to leave the building should lock the door. . .


    "Men can spray a field with chemicals that kill weeds but spare crops; too bad they cannot spray cities with bombs that blow the bad to bits but leave the innocent intact." The Watchtower 1955 July 15, Page 436



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