Timothy And His Secular Education

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  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    The following quote appears in a May 1 Watchtower study article. Does anyone have any information on the Greek educational system? When did education begin? When did it end?

    Regards,

    Justitia

    The Watchtower
    May 1, 2007
    Youths – Pursue Goals That Honor God

    “Fight the Fine Fight” (Page 27 – pp14-16)

    14 Giving priority to goals that honor Jehovah is the wisest course but by no means the easiest. When it comes to choosing a career, for example, you may come under a great deal of pressure from relatives, peers, and well-meaning educators who believe that a higher education and a lucrative career are the keys to true success and happiness. (Romans 12:2) Like Timothy, you will need to “fight the fine fight of the faith” in order to “get a firm hold on the everlasting life” that Jehovah holds out to you. – 1 Timothy 6:12; 2 Timothy 3:12.

    15 When unbelieving family members disapprove of your choices, the test can be especially severe. Possibly, Timothy had to overcome such opposition. According to one reference work, Timothy’s family probably “belonged to the educated and upper income bracket.” His father may well have expected him to seek higher education and to continue a family business.* Imagine how Timothy’s father may have reacted on discovering that Timothy preferred the dangers and financial uncertainties of missionary work with Paul!

    16 Young Christians today face similar challenges. Matthew, who serves at a branch office of Jehovah’s Witnesses, recalls: “When I began serving as a pioneer, my father was extremely disappointed. He felt that I had ‘wasted’ my education by taking a job as a cleaner to support me in my ministry. He would taunt me, reminding me of how much I could earn if I took a full-time job.” How did Matthew deal with that opposition? “I kept up a solid Bible-reading schedule and constantly prayed, especially at moments when it would have been easy for me to lose my temper.” Mathew’s determination had been rewarded. Over time, his relationship with his father improved. Matthew had also drawn closer to Jehovah. “I have seen Jehovah provide for me, encourage me, and protect me from bad decisions,” says Matthew. “I would not have experienced any of these things if I had not reached out for spiritual goals.”


    *Greek society placed a high value on education. Plutarch, a contemporary of Timothy, wrote: “To receive a proper education is the source and root of all goodness…It is this, I say, which leads on and helps towards moral excellence and towards happiness…All other advantages are human, and trivial, and not worth our serious concern.”
    – Moralia 1, “The Education of Children.”

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia
    Possibly, Timothy had to overcome such opposition. According to one reference work, Timothy’s family probably “belonged to the educated and upper income bracket.” His father may well have expected him to seek higher education and to continue a family business.* Imagine how Timothy’s father may have reacted on discovering that Timothy preferred the dangers and financial uncertainties of missionary work with Paul!

    LOL, that "possible" scenario was the very one they invented for the Drama at the convention, of which there really is no evidence whatsoever. Now, I suppose one could make up a fictional play er, drama, people have been doing it for millennia, but I find it funny how it then reappears in the guise of a quite possible dilemma that Timothy actually faced. The vast majority of the readers of the Watchtower had seen that drama, and many doubtlessly thought uncritically that this is based on something that Timothy actually experienced, and now this Watchtower article confirms it.

    Interesting that we don't see a play about Daniel accepting worldly higher education, and then taking a government job. That, at least, would have a biblical basis.

  • sir82
    sir82

    Guffaw!

    Right, the 1st century Greek educational system was exactly identical to the American university system! As soon as a young Greek lad turned 18, he sent out various applications (via UPS, of course...United Papyrus Service) to Socrates U., Aristotle U., and Sparta State. Although Athens Tech had a nice MBA program for those who wanted to move up rapidly in the chariot-wheel manufacturing businesses that were springing up all over.

    Of course, there were moral dangers everywhere - imagine the toga parties that must have gone on! And spring break on the Adriatic..."Vestal Virgins Gone Wild!"

    On a more serious note...y'know, they write utter crap like that, then wonder why they lose 80+% of their youth...as if teenagers can't google to learn what Greek educational systems were really like in the 1st century (Hint no. 1...they didn't go to school to learn how to "run the family business").

    As I've said numerous times before...Idiots.

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    google to learn what Greek educational systems were really like in the 1st century (

    BTW, I did that, and emailed myself a bunch of documents for review later. However, I am at work, and can't review the information until tonight...didn't want anyone to think I was just being lazy.

    Justitia

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    I guess Timothy wanted to go to the Chi Rho fraternity instead.

  • The Dragon
    The Dragon

    Too bad Timothy can not suddenly come back and tell us the truth..and expose these people who twist things to manipulate others.

    But by them doing so.....a dead man has them by the balls...should he be resurrected...or a hidden gospel written by timothy be found carefully detailing his views on such things....they would be in huge trouble...but until then....full speed ahead.

  • Bonnie_Clyde
    Bonnie_Clyde

    Another thing that infuriated me about that article was the way they downgrade the family arrangement. In the modern-day exmple of Matthew, the father wants the best for his son, but the Borg who feels they are superior in wisdom is telling the boy to go against his father's wishes and that he is better off with a cleaning job. I wonder how Matthew will feel when he's in his 50's and his back goes out and can't keep it up. Is the Borg going to pay his bills when he is too old to work?

  • The Dragon
    The Dragon

    You don't get it do you?

    People who are smarter and higher educated than you..are harder to lead or mislead..forcing you to promote them..or become higher educated like them...or you may end being led by your higher educated followers!

    NOT a good thing to have your followers higher educated than yourself..........

    They no longer need you...and may steal away some of your followers.

  • Jim_TX
    Jim_TX
    "I wonder how Matthew will feel when he's in his 50's and his back goes out and can't keep it up. Is the Borg going to pay his bills when he is too old to work?"

    It's called the 'WTBTS Healthcare system'. As long as you're healthy, we care. When you aren't... we don't.

    Regards,

    Jim TX

  • NotBlind
    NotBlind

    As usual, the WT is picking and choosing its examples, and completely making up others. For all we know, Timothy's father could have been completely supportive of his son's decision! Entire paragraphs are based on the imagination of some guy in the Writing Department.

    Anyway, the WT has no business preaching the evils of education out of one side of its mouth, then complaining that their followers aren't donating enough out of the other.

    NotBlind

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