What is Really being Taught in America's Universities?

by XJW4EVR 28 Replies latest social current

XJW4EVR

Please. What is the point of going to a university??

Seems like some need reminding that it is to LEARN TO THINK FOR YOURSELF.

I have heard all sorts of wacky views from BOTH ends of the spectrum. I take them in, mull them over and form an opinion based on what I have experienced, what is presented to me in class and what I read in relevant literature.

That is actually what you are supposed to be able to do. If a professor (and we've seen 3 or 5 out of HOW many hundreds of thousands of professors...?) is spouting off racist nonsense, is this not an opportunity to develop your OWN ideas even further?? Raise your hand and make a retort in class! Gather fellow outraged students together and DO something! Don't just whine about it.

I was in a rather "right-leaning" undergraduate program and was quite outnumbered- but I stood up to the crowd and backed up my own views with the science that I had. You need to do the same. It is called "getting an education".

Most of us at universities are not babies needing to be fed mush-grey pablum...

Respectfully (to the "left" AND the "right"),

Kudra
Well Kudra, I am glad that you went to a "right-leaning: university where you could speak your dissenting opinions. I attend a very leftist university where voicing a dissenting opinion will get my grade lowered, at best, or physically harmed, at worst! Fortunately, this will be my last semester at that dump.
As for the rest of your post, it appears that I have touched a nerve. I am not "whining." I am voicing an opinion. Oh, but I am voicing the "wrong" opinion, therfore I am "whining." Get a grip!
As far as getting an education, why do you think I am in college? Hello, McFly? Here is two cents, buy yourself a clue.
I don't understand how a simple exposure of the facts can cause seemingly intelligent and thoughtful people to begin to foam at the mouth like rabid dogs?
DanTheMan

I don't know. Perhaps Jesus words about occupying until he returns. Or about being salt and light. In other words exposing what is wrong or immoral, and being a preservative element for His teachings. These things Christians should be doing.
ok.
I am not angry about it, nor am I hand wringing.
I'll let the readers of this thread make their own judgement on that one.
Yes, all those things indicate the nearness of Jesus' return, what's your point.
Then aren't you happy? That's my point. You seem really bitter.
XJW4EVR

I don't know. Perhaps Jesus words about occupying until he returns. Or about being salt and light. In other words exposing what is wrong or immoral, and being a preservative element for His teachings. These things Christians should be doing.
ok.
I am not angry about it, nor am I hand wringing.
I'll let the readers of this thread make their own judgement on that one.
Yes, all those things indicate the nearness of Jesus' return, what's your point.
Then aren't you happy? That's my point. You seem really bitter.
Happiness has nothing to do with my life as a Christian. Happiness depends on happenstance. Sometimes I am and sometimes I'm not. I think you are really way off base in attempting to classify as happy or angry. I think you shuld get to know me before you make these sorts of highly judgemental statements.
I made my statements, and I stand by them. However if you and the rest of the armchair psychologists wish to weigh-in, then so be it. That is your perogitive, but I don't have to agree with it.
Have a great evening!
144001

Well Kudra, I am glad that you went to a "right-leaning: university where you could speak your dissenting opinions. I attend a very leftist university where voicing a dissenting opinion will get my grade lowered, at best, or physically harmed, at worst! Fortunately, this will be my last semester at that dump
Your allegations regarding the integrity of CSU Los Angeles' grading system are strictly your own opinion, and, based on the posts I've seen from you in this forum, I don't share that opinion with you. You earned the grades you received.
Characterizing the school that provided an education to you as a "dump" demonstrates ungrateful character, especially in light of your comments below:
I leafed through them, and got to a letter that was from a scholarship committee. Puzzled, I opened it and discovered that my name had been submitted by one of my professors at Cal-St. Los Angeles for a scholarship directed at older learners. The scholarship is a full ride, and could be used at 10 universities, one of which is USC.
MariAruet

I don't know about that but I was at a lecutre here the other day at local college and a professor from United States was comparing US and European school system. He said that in Europe and British commonwealth universities focus on pleasure of learning for its own sake and pursuit of knowledge whereas in US the purpose of higher learing is "Efficient Plunder" once students get out in the industry
I found that really funny
Pistoff

HEY X:

did you even READ the page you linked to????

"Ignatiev is part of a wide consensus of social scientists of the late twentieth and early twenty-first centuries who view race distinctions and race itself as a social construct, not a scientific reality. In his study of Irish immigrants in the nineteenth-century United States, Ignatiev recounts the Irish triumph over nativism and shows how that triumph marked the incorporation of the Irish into the dominant group of American society. Ignatiev asserts that the Irish were not initially accepted by native-born Americans of Anglo-Saxon descent as white. He claims that only through their own violence against free blacks and support of slavery did the Irish gain acceptance as white. Ignatiev and other scholars of the field define whiteness as the access to white privilege, which according to Ignatiev gains people perceived to have "white" skin admission to certain neighborhoods, schools, and jobs. In the nineteenth century it was strongly associated with political power, especially suffrage."

He is ATTACKING racist ideas, brainiac.
Pistoff

"I don't understand how a simple exposure of the facts"

Don't confuse your misreading of other's opinions as facts.

My advice: stay in school until you get it.
XJW4EVR

144,001 more jealous and petty comments? That's OK, I understand. Oh and BTW, at CSULA I maintained a 3.86 GPA. Just because you don't agree with me does not mean that I am stupider than you. It means that I don't agree with you. However, I understand that difference of open is the one thing that progressives, and "open-minded" people fear the most. It's not fair to them that people can look at something and think that others that hold an alternate or differing opinion than their own.
As far as any other comments, I stand by them. So go ahead and crawl back into your cyber hole. I have a full-ride scholarship to a great university. What do you have? Nothing! That's OK. I understand and can identify petty jealousy when I see it.
144001

144,001 more jealous and petty comments? That's OK, I understand. Oh and BTW, at CSULA I maintained a 3.86 GPA.
Jealous? What in my comments leads you to the conclusion that I am jealous of a person of your character? I feel no envy for you, just pity. You are obviously lacking in self esteem, hence your incessant boasting about accomplishments that are noteworthy only to you.
Just because you don't agree with me does not mean that I am stupider than you. It means that I don't agree with you.
I've neither stated nor implied that you are "stupid" in any respect whatsoever. It's all in your head, guy. This comment is just another indication that you are sorely lacking in self esteem. I do think you might benefit from some counseling.
However, I understand that difference of open is the one thing that progressives, and "open-minded" people fear the most. It's not fair to them that people can look at something and think that others that hold an alternate or differing opinion than their own. It's not fair to them that people can look at something and think that others that hold an alternate or differing opinion than their own.
This is unintelligible. It appears that you're trying to assert that "progressives" and "open-minded" people are "fearful" of the existence of opinions that differ from their own. Such assertion is demonstrative of the the "us vs. them" mentality you learned as a JW, and patently ridiculous.
As far as any other comments, I stand by them. So go ahead and crawl back into your cyber hole.
I'd be embarrassed to be associated with your comments, much less "stand by them." Your comments are quite illustrative of the type of character you possess.
I have a full-ride scholarship to a great university. What do you have? Nothing! That's OK.
I have self esteem, a trait which you obviously lack. In addition to self esteem, I have a graduate degree, and a track record of personal and professional success. That may be "nothing" to you, but it's quite obvious to me that you have none of the above.
That's OK. I understand and can identify petty jealousy when I see it.
Given the facts, it appears you are also suffering from delusions. You are the last person on this forum that I would be envious of.

What is Really being Taught in America's Universities?

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