by Crooked Lumpy Vessel 36 Replies latest watchtower bible
If you have to ask questions that don't seem to have answers, maybe it's a sign that a premise is wrong? -AlmostAthiest
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Perhaps if attention rested in reality rather than illusion, the hunger for authenticity and truth would be quenched. -JamesThomas
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As long as we need to put the blame on only one thing (IT) and expecting the same IT to arrange everything ... We might forget that we have free will and feel confortable not taking our responsabilities to grow up and really understand that everything is very complex in one sense and very simple in an other. and since we are at least able to understand what is simple we should begin our thinking from what is simple.
Simple : Good as bad are contagious (if there was nobody to applaude and promote greedy/selfish/egocentric/bad spirited with all there bad faith to look good, would there be any who wants to be like that?) but no wonder why a lot wants to copy or envie them (who is to blame? Who can help? Thoses questions becomes complex because everybody will have a reason to react or not the right or the wrong way regarding to someone or something else = their actual needs regarding to there whole experience but in fact ourselves)
Complex : Do a creator/God have to be humanlike ? When the answer seems to be simple, since IT is not supposed to be human (it stil doesn't make the answer that simple) but it allows to not comparare what is not comparable.
The universe and metauniverse are just too big for us to understand. Perhaps it doesn't have to make sense. Perhaps the question is wrong?
And you know what....perhaps one day we get to find out anyway. All I know is that RELIGION is wrong. It doesn't know and cannot find answers that are not based on superstition.
If our life force, soul, whatever you want to call it, comes from one source, then I suspect one day we get to know the answers. Until then, we can only do our best in the hope that one day, we get to find the answer to all the questions. If not, we'll never know anyway.
Has the clay authority over the potter?Do you presume to judge God. No wonder the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
Only a fool would say in his heart or on the internet that their is no God.
Has the clay authority over the potter?Do you presume to judge God. No wonder the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
Only a fool would say in his heart or on the internet that their is no God.
There is no God but man. There. The Fool is the beginning of Wisdom!
"To the fool, he who speaks wisdom will sound foolish." ~ Euripides
And you know what....perhaps one day we get to find out anyway. All I know is that RELIGION is wrong. It doesn't know and cannot find answers that are not based on superstition.
andyviw, name-calling is what people resort to when they don't have an answer. It's easier for you to call others fools than to look at what they are trying to tell you. Maybe you could be wrong? If name-calling is all you've got, you need to look at that. After all, no one has called you a fool for believing in a myth.
>>Has the clay authority over the potter?
Doesn't it behoove the potter to give the clay some solid reasons to believe he exists? In this lump of clay's mind, evidence for a potter is spotty and scant. If my potter ever shows up, I'll be happy to listen to him. (For that matter, I'd like to talk to him about this broken vitamin-C gene of mine!) But until then...
Dave
Has the clay authority over the potter?
Ask an artist if the media they use speaks to them, demands what the artist makes them into. Does the clay have authority over the potter? In fact, yes, if the potter be a true artist.
What is the potter without the clay in which to manifest? What is the clay without the Magick of manifestation?
The gods need us as we need them. It is very much symbiotic.
I agree that hubris is uncalled for. However, reasonable questioning, reasoning is always in order. It is how we get to know the gods (who btw, are usually fashioned after us in any given time with the mythos we find ourselves in particular need of--this does not make them any less powerful, however)
Though I call on this god by different faces and names, the one people in this society generally call on is fashioned after the Jewish god and I found one of the most interesting concepts in Judaism when I studied with the rabbi's is the concept that bible-god welcomes questioning and actual arguing (sans hubris, of course, which all gods tend to frown upon because of our psychological need to have something worthy of respect and honor). They take the example of Abraham haggling with his god over the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. The actual Hebrew denotes an argument or debate if you will.
So, yes, the clay can and must question the potter. Otherwise, even in the christian schema, worshippers are just grovelly too scared to tell you what they really think yes-men ----just automatons. and wow, where's the challenge in that? where's the real love? you can't even give an automaton a good smiting without feeling good about it ; )
