What do you think really happened with this Elder?

by reneeisorym 24 Replies latest jw friends

  • reneeisorym
    reneeisorym

    Here's what I know that happened a few years ago with my elder uncle. I have my suspicions that I know what happened. I'll tell you the facts and tell me what you think happened. (excuse my past tense -- these people are still alive but since they won't talk to me, I find myself thinking of them in the past instead of the present)

    Now keep in mind that this guy is an odd fellow. A little eccentric and he even has had a brain tumor and brain surgery twice. Also the kind of guy who would wear peach or pink and not think anything about it. He would wear cuff-links and tie tacks and rings. He watches the weather channel for hours on end. My aunt and uncle never had children because she was unable.

    My uncle was deleted as elder. (no, not DFed) No one would talk about what happened. In fact, no one knew. My dad the elder knew but none of the rest of the family except my uncle's wife.

    My uncle had cheated on my aunt in the past.

    I asked why after he was deleted that my uncle wasn't forgiven and working to become and elder again since he was so good at giving talks. My dad said, "He will not be allowed to ever be an elder again."

    My mom talked to my aunt about how my aunt thought it was so unfair that he couldn't ever become an elder again since the charges were only alligations and they never had proof.

    One more thing -- I spent the night as a child with every aunt and uncle I had but never this one. They would take me out in service and take me shopping but never would let me spend the night. Their other neice never spent the night either.

  • ninja
    ninja

    Hey Renee...I think you have had a lucky escape....I mean ..imagine watching the weather channel for hours on end!

  • BFD
    BFD

    Hmmmmm.....

    Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Could it be possible that he had an affair with (GASP) another male?

    BFD

  • dedpoet
    dedpoet

    Hi Renee

    One more thing -- I spent the night as a child with every aunt and uncle I had but never this one. They would take me out in service and take me shopping but never would let me spend the night. Their other neice never spent the night either.

    There is an obvious conclusion we could jump to as to why he was deleted, and never allowed to become an elder again, isn't there?

    If he has been or still is suspected of child abuse, which the fact that you and his other niece were never allowed to spend the night at his home at least implies, then he's lucky he only got deleted as an elder IMHO, he could be in jail.

  • reneeisorym
    reneeisorym
    Hey Renee...I think you have had a lucky escape....I mean ..imagine watching the weather channel for hours on end!

    hey!! I like the weather channel .... (ok maybe not that much!!)

    Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Could it be possible that he had an affair with (GASP) another male?

    By the time I get done with this you guys are going to think I had the strangest family ever. My family is the one with money (the money they didn't share with me TYVM) that is hush hush about everything. That said -- No, that was my grandfather that had an affair with another male. And they let him be a MS now.

    If he has been or still is suspected of child abuse, which the fact that you and his other niece were never allowed to spend the night at his home at least implies, then he's lucky he only got deleted as an elder IMHO, he could be in jail.

    Does anyone else think this is the only logical conclusion? This is what I've been thinking but before I decide that this is the only possible explination -- do you guys think the evidence could add up to anything else or do you think that this really is the only thing that could have happened?

  • Crumpet
    Crumpet
    Also the kind of guy who would wear peach or pink and not think anything about it. He would wear cuff-links and tie tacks and rings. He watches the weather channel for hours on end. My aunt and uncle never had children because she was unable.

    Is it unusual to wear pink as a guy or tie pins and cuff links over there? Its kind of common here...

  • sir82
    sir82
    "He will not be allowed to ever be an elder again."

    The only situation for which this is true, per written JW instructions, is in the case of a child molester.

    It's conceivable that there may have been some sort of direction from the Service Dept. indicating that he couldn't ever be an elder again for some other reason, but it seems highly unlikely.

  • ninja
    ninja

    hey crumpet...not anymore....John Inman's dead

  • seek2find
    seek2find

    Renee, I agree with the post above. If there has been any confession or proof of Child abuse in the past, he will never be allowed a position again. That is the only thing (I think) that would render him unuseable as a servant forever. I know of one individual that is in that situation right now for something that happened many years ago. It puts an everlasting stain on ones record. Funny thing is tho, the congregation is not notified of this. So if the person still has tendencies for this kind of behavior, they are still available to take advantage of children in the future, they just can't hold a position in the congregation. How messed up is that???? seek2find

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    You obviously want us to arrive at the obvious.
    He is somehow attracted to children. He either was accused or confessed. He didn't come
    totally clean with the wife, but she knows something.

    What he actually did? You hint at peach and pink and tie-tacks like he's possibly gay.
    You change over to nieces never spending the night, but allowed to be with him and the aunt.
    Someone is clouding the issues between cheating with ladies/girls/men/boys for a reason.
    I would guess that he's a closet homosexual, but in case this gets out, they want you all to
    think he's just unfaithful. As far as the children attraction thing goes, you have presented
    no evidence, just speculations.

    Added- in case way too much get out, they want you to think he is attracted to young GIRLS
    who are post-pubescent. They feel that seems more normal.

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