Ok here is my problem.........

by fifi40 24 Replies latest jw friends

  • bernadette
    bernadette

    Having been a mum, to me a danger area for young teenagers constantly being indoctrinated by JW's is that they may be taken in by the false spiritual security they offer, their ' watertight philosphy for life'.

    Teenagers are bothered by social injustice etc. on top of that they want meaning and purpose in life but they want that for everyone - so JW's can seem quite attractive to the inexperienced.

    But it seems to me that you are exposing him to a broad spectum of experiences, it may be an idea though to gently find out how he feels about philosophical stuff.

    bernadette

  • bebu
    bebu
    I wish you well. Whatever tack you take - do it quickly and smoothly, or your son is headed for Jwism sure as hell.

    You know you've left JWs when you can say that!

    bebu

  • mimimimi
    mimimimi

    "I have a similar problem. My son does not go to meetings anymore (he is 12), but his father and his grandmother pressure him to baptize. I am trying to show him the light, but he is so conditioned to be scared of it, that I am afraid to say too much and push him away. Grrr. (My mom wants us to come over so she can give him the new magazines this weekend and thinks he should be going to the meetings.) " Vanilla Mocha, Never fear. If your son is not going to meetings, he will not be allowed by the elders to be baptized. Just keep him away from those meetings. If your mother gives him the magazines, does he actually read them? I suspect there are a lot of 12 year olds who are not going to sit down and read the W&A. mimi

  • restrangled
    restrangled

    Lots of great advice from everyone..

    fifi...you come across as a really down to earth concerned parent who wishes the best for her child. I don't think that there is anything better at ensuring his balance than for you to really, make yourself available to talk to him. I think if he's playing Warcraft, watching Borat and doing all the other things kids do without getting all guilted out, then so far, so good. As one of the other posters mentioned, he's entering an awkward time of his life. He will probably be more likely to come to you regarding girls, school etc...than his father if he knows in advance all the WTS advice his father will probably give him. I would ask a lot of questions and do a lot of listening and establish that he can trust you and talk to you about anything no matter what.

    There is a really good book call "The Prophet" Kahlil Gibran that covers a lot of ground about life. It's not super religious or controversial despite the name....and is very well written. I'd give it a once over and see if you think he might like the more spiritual less religious aspect of it.

    Another poster wrote about keeping him active in sports, guitar etc...that was a biggie for my oldest son. I made him play little league baseball and go out for football in high school....he wasn't very good but it didn't matter....he later thanked me and said the team aspect and comraderie did wonders for his social life. Ultimately if he can actually experience the normal things that most kids get to...then getting baptised won't be so attractive.

    I would try to impress on him not to even consider getting baptised until after he is finished with college. If you can do that, I think when he reaches 22 you'll find that he will embrace life instead of run from it.

    Best of luck to you and the other posters with the 12 year olds!!!

    r's hubby

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO PREVENT HIM GETTING DUNKED B4 18!!!!

    Ditto!

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    He gets baptised and you will get shunned.

    My son is 11 and I'm holding my breath. The last time I asked him about baptism he said "No way" so at least he's got some doubts about the cult.

  • Darth Yhwh
    Darth Yhwh

    No, I think this is your problem:

    But my son and I do not discuss religion and the JW teachings, or very rarely..............I have kind of maintained the reasoning that he will make his own mind up one day and that he will reach an age where I can reason with him about the JW teachings.

    You've got to start comunicating with your son. If you wait untle he's "at an age where" you can reason with him it will be too late. There will be no reasoning because he'll have a little brown book to do it all for him. Find out how he really feels about the cult.

    If I were you I would also begin to take steps to limit the time he spends with his father at JDub functions. His father obviously feels comfortable enough in your home to do as he pleases. It's time to start to making some changes.

  • AudeSapere
    AudeSapere

    Jgnat's written quite a few posts on teaching children the skills of critical thinking. Even young children can start learning those skills and catch on to manipulative language. I'd suggest looking back at some of those.

    Blondie does an amazing job with the Watchtower Study each week. Could you maybe review her comments and try to drop a few concepts on Saturdays before the watchtower? A little advance counter arguement might start to get him thinking himself during the WT study on Sunday's as he remember your comments the day before.

    I completely understand your not wanting to upset the emotional balance that you have with his dad. However, I agree with the others who said he's probably already getting guilted into considering baptism. Hey! You could just ASK him if he's been approached or been thinking about it. Then have a small, easy, non-emotional discussion.

    I think you really need to start getting him to think for himself in addition to making a deal with you to put off consideration of baptism until he is out of college. (You can always negotiate down to age 18, if you have to - but aim for later.)

    JWD may become the lifeline you need in coping with 2 teens and a JW ex...!

    Best Wishes to you.

    -Aude.

  • AudeSapere
    AudeSapere

    Here's a link to some of jgnat's threads:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/member/3324/topics/10.ashx

    Hope it helps.

    -Aude.

  • fifi40
    fifi40

    Just a quick note to say a HUGE thanks to you all................I will be back later to reply individually..............would have done last night but couldnt get on the site.

    Big thanks

    Fifi

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