Has Matt 24:14 been fulfilled?

Gratitude

Has anyone else heard (or have I been playing ostrich) that the door to door work is no longer necessary???? The follow up to that was it's not true. But, it was part of a talk at a 1 day assembly. In my days, mid 70-mid 90, the talks given at assemblies were gone over with a fine toothed comb and their were those given the charge of following the talk. Have things changed that much? How can witnessing publically ever be fulfilled??? I do it everyday in my actions in open and more spiritual actions than I ever demonstrated as a JW.

Gratitude

Madame Quixote

It's been fulfilled on Planet JWD. It's over for most of us.

Arthur

In Matthew 24:14 - Jesus says "this Good News of the Kingdom". Jesus' words do not allow for a new, improved, or altered message to be preached. In the same chapter, in verses 4 and 5, Jesus warns: "Watch out, and do not let anyone fool you. Many men, claiming to speak for me will come and say, 'I am the Messiah!' and they will fool many people."

Obviously, Jesus did not merely mean that men would always say that they were literally Jesus, the Messiah. It is important to note that Jesus was warning about false teachers that would attempt to attribute Messiah-like characteristics to themselves; namely salvation.

The message that is being preached by the Watchtower organization is indeed a different Gospel, or Good News that was not preached by Jesus or the apostles. The basic thrust of the message is that "honest-hearted ones" must come into "Jehovah's organization" in association with the annointed remnant, or "the Faithful and Discreet Slave". Nowhere in the New Testament is there any indication that people would join a centralized organization for salvation. Jesus in his preaching message never taught that salvation somehow hinged upon association with a seperate class of individuals, or 144,000. He also never indicated that any timetable could be assigned to his return.

The apostle Paul could not have made it more plain when he stated at Galatians 1:6-8:

"I marvel that you are being so quickly removed from the One who called you with Christ's undeserved kindness over to another sort of good news. But it is not another; only there are certain ones who are causing you trouble and wanting to pervert the good news about the Christ. However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond what we declare to you as good news, let him be accursed."

sspo

Good job Arthur, for being so young you sure have good thinking abilities.

The watchtower trained you well in the TMS.

Atlantis

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jaguarbass

I had a couple of old ladies banging at my door disturbing my dogs the other day, I wish someone would tell them they dont have to come down my street any more.

JH

Welcome to JWD gratitude

Gratitude

Thanks JH. Your "welcome" was most appreciated! I almost felt like I was being preached to again! lol I still have one friend whose a JW only cuz he won't give up on me!! He just told me about this newest "revelation" and it's usual correction a month or so ago. Maybe it came out longer ago than that.

I'm not disgruntled with JWs. It's just not for me anymore. My biggest complaint now is that I don't seem to fit in anywhere. Being raised a Catholic, converting at the age of 23 to JW and leaving 21 years later gives me the 2 biggest guilt trips in the world!!! I wouldn't mind becoming a part of a religious organization again....if for nothing else than to meet people...but I DO still believe there isn't a trinity which leaves out 99.9% of so-called Christian based religions. Guess I'll just keep on, keepin on......I pray more now than ever and love, more than ever, talking to him along the trails on the Blue Ridge.

Have a grateful day!!!

Gratitude

Undecided

Hi Gratitude, welcome to the only place I can find so many different views of religion and don't feel like I must agree with any of them to be accepted.

I've gone to several churches and like you the trinity makes me feel that the religions are just a way to make people feel they know God but it's just a bunch of crock. When the preacher says God was hanging on a cross so he could forgive us from a sin some Adam did thousands of years ago it just doesn't make sense. If he wanted us all to be in heaven why didn't he put us there to in the beginning? Why would a loving God put us in a burning hell forever if we don't believe something that doesn't make any sense?

beyond what we declare to you as good news, let him be accursed."

Paul's words sound like preacher's of all different faiths today.

Ken P.

NotaNess

The Trinity is a concept based on certain writings and pointers in scripture. Is it possible that God didn't really want us to know what he was doing specifically with our salvation process, so he didn't come right out and state it, but the writers kind of figured it out or rather had faith that God was all 3 working together for the salvation of his humans that keep messing up? Doesn't mean they would come right out and write it as well in depth. I find it difficult to see that some people don't think God had the power to do this, or that he would'nt do this. Surely he could come out and say, "Hey look at me, I'm God in the Flesh, Now I'll die for you so you can obey me and be free from the result of sin". People would'nt get it. There had to be a showing of sacrifice so that man could understand what was done for their salvation. God had to put into play something symbolic of this and it was a Son.

No matter when the "Trinity" was introduced into Christianity as a real thought, I feel man has uncovered who God is and was in scripture and we have acknowledged it by putting faith in Christ, the "Face of God".

God could also have just said, no one is saved unless you believe in me, and come to me only. But he did right, in the old testament, with a back up plan called the messiah.

That wasn't working though either right? He had to go and make a part of himself a fleshly man, in order to wake the stupid humans up, kind of like "Hello...McFly" with a knock on the forehead.

It's not hard for me to believe and have faith in it. I'm just glad I don't have to be under the mind control aspects of the WTS, and am free to put faith in the scripture on my own...."and the Word was God....Christ created ALL things.........There are no Gods before OR after me".

And

Has Matt 24:14 been fulfilled?

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